Thanks for the tip... I thought about the Mutated Veiled that is a Veils 2020 clone but the populated board is out of stock in Pusherman and I don't feel confident soldering 0402 SMD...Might wait a bit if it gets restocked.
When I thought about the 4 VCAs, I thought exactly on using them as attenuators for the Clouds. Will look into the MIA but I understand Veils can do a similar job, right?
I'm trying to not rush into anything so learning as much as I can is the priority now :) Maybe I need an output module too to plug into speaker/headphone/line.

what do you miss?

Maybe it works with your akai force but its seems very uncomplete to me.
I dont get the idea at the moment.

in general:

too much voices and to less of everything else

5 voices and 1 filter?
to less modulation
to less utility like attenuverters and stuff

you mix and master in your laptop?
you use external fx?

I'd skip the single VCAs and invest in a quad cascading one such as a veils clone ... you can never have too many vcas!!!

and I'd add some attenuators/attenuverters - clouds really needs them - specifically for reducing modulation from fulll voltage range to 'tiny little bits' - less really is more when modulation sources talk to clouds! Happy nerding 3 * MIA is a good example...

take a look at my signature... spend some (& buy some I mean considerable) time thinking deeply about it!!!!

it's really helpful for steering newbies into good practices...

I'd tackle this build in 3 phases...

1. Dice(Marbles) + Monsoon(Clouds) + 1 DIY uVCA + Power and Case (TipTop Audio Happy Ending?)
2. Tryfello LFO + 1 DIY uVCA
3. Pixie(Plaits) (or another voice) + Add(replace?) Tryfello with Ochd

I will upload all of the Wiard modules in as high resolution as I can manage. I'm doing rack planning in OmniGraffle right now for my mixed FRAC / Wiard 300 system, and there has to be a better way (this site, this site is the better way). The multi-format rack request is so that I can have Wiard rows and Frac rows saved to the same rack...I assume some other folks with several different formats would also like the ability to show their whole studio on one saved rack? Anyway. I'll do my part, just need the ability to do so.

I'm playing live for the first time this summer. This rack is connected through the es9 to an Akai force wich does sequencing, eq/mix, filtering and effects. What is missing?

The organization of the modules can also change, im not married to it.

Better still, just use proper ISO8601 format everywhere: YYYY-mm-dd

-- igloopoo

Let's start with the marketplace long list!

Any experience with this module?

EDITED Jun 10th, 12:58

Do you mean Effect, OSC/Sound generator, Sampler, or Utility module?

EDITED Jun 10th, 12:56

https://modulargrid.net/e/joranalogue-audio-design-transmit-2
Is it a good module to convert mono OSC to stereo
Is it good for some sort of mixing?
Thanks

ok thanks so match

The Nerdseq. It turned my modular stuff into a proper setup rather than just a collection of bits I liked, but it did so without making my music too unnecessarily normal.

Morphagene

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...Better still, just use proper
ISO8601 format everywhere: YYYY-mm-dd

-- igloopoo

one size to fit them all. IMHO.

EDITED Jun 8th, 20:23

Does anyone know if there is a varient of a MakeNoise / Mutable Instruments style knob that would replace a straight shafted Davies knob?
I have the lovely M1 Mixer from DPW but my clumbsy fingers get in the way of the tightly spaced knobs.

Cheers

I think all my effects will normal a mono input but some effects will further Stereo-ize.
Mimeophon has some nice ping-pong style features and it will also put the delay in the opposite channel to the initial signal.
Clouds has a knob for stereo seperation.
ZVERB is only mono-in but Stereo out.
Veno Echo does all sorts of stereo fun from a Mono input.
Pico DSP is mono in and Stereo out, think that depends on the mode you have set.

It really depends on how the designer has implemented it, and works on a module by module, and algorithm by algorithm basis...

you really need to read the manual for the specific module

usually the left input doubles as a mono input... some stereo algorithms on some modules (often reverbs) will only take a mono input (and some will use the right input for something else - clocking for example)

some modules will output a signal only on the left output, others will just make a copy of the mono input and send it to the right output (this potentially means that they work as a dual mono output - the same signal is sent to both the L & R outputs) and others will 'stereoise' the mono input (usually by adding a slight delay) - so that the diffeent signals are output from the L & R channels...

samples
-- robinhase

I'm also concluding that the bitboxes are just for manual clip launching... so basically the only thing interesting is maybe what the er301 is doing?

I am new for modular synthesizers. The question is what will happen if the mono OSC is connected to the stereo effect. Wet sound at the output will be mono or stereo?

We uploaded another session on our soundcloud.

This is about an hour long. This one has some wild and epic vibe.

And yeah, I suck at keys, but it was real fun

https://on.soundcloud.com/fsxDmgrxu5Y8J65Y9

EDITED Jun 7th, 06:17

Date Formats.

I'm not in the USA but date format in the marketplace long listing is USA format: mm/dd/YY.
Only two countries use this!

As the site already automagically senses TZ could it use that to format the date to suit the TZ?

Better still, just use proper ISO8601 format everywhere: YYYY-mm-dd

Oh, that Cizzle does look like a useful module. I was looking for the dual tones for the rack theme. This was just my first patch using the Casor & Pollux, def want to get into some of the dreamy synth lead lines next.

I dread to think what would happen if i picked a guitar up, probably a bar of 'Smoke on the Water' !

Nice, I ended up selling my Castor & Pollux I think I was/am chasing different sounds, quite fancy the ALM Cizzle.

Cheers @FredFoxtrott

This is awesome! Nice build.

A sequencer would be very low on my list to add-on to this synth,
-- ku14
Point taken, thanks for yoir feedback

For me so far it's easily been Mannequins' Just Friends. It's my first Mannequins and man, the thing is amazing. It squirts out all kinds of different sounds depending on how/what you modulate it with, or it can be a flexibile modulator itself. It reminds me a bit of the Joranalogue Orbit and the Mutable Instruments Tides, but I find it way more fun than either of those ... I just always seem to get it to spit out something that sounds cool to me. Looking forward to trying a Mangrove.

Any favorite pick ups from the first half of the year?

Although their claims obviously haven't been verified in a court of law, I'd imagine most of these "intellectual property" snobs have downloaded music or samples and have not paid the artist who made them, but apparently that's different. Typical hypocrites. If they want to overpay for items to seem "cool", bless their hearts. I'll keep the extra money in MY pocket where it belongs :)
-- AlphaGrayWolf

Not overpaying, simply investing in small passionate companies who don't have Behringer's resources but who have actual vision and HQ products, instead of a corporate behemoth that's openly ripping them off. The history of Behringer being a generally amoral and all around sucky company is well documented if you look into them, I wouldn't pay them a dime. Be a corporate simp and buy up their cheap-o knock-offs if that's all you can afford, but Xaoc has my support 100%. Good company, good customer service, quality innovative products. (And yeah btw, downloading music and not paying the artist IS different and a lousy analogy, but that's a whole other tangent/discussion).

A sequencer would be very low on my list to add-on to this synth, I mean how much time have you put in with the Matriarch's onboard sequencer so far? I was originally thinking "brand new to this synth" and the follow-up questions have me thinking "brand new to all this stuff in general." What do you find lacking or hindering when you sequence the Matriarch right now? I wouldn't buy another sequencer without being able to answer that question, and appreciate the fact that you're about to more than triple the total cost of this Moog set-up through filling 300HP of modules, so you should really hesitate to grab $600 or $1000+ modules that you're feeling wishy-washy on. There are a lot of extremely nice external sequencers in this price range that run circles around anything in eurorack.

No experience with the Metropolix. You could use voltage adders and switches to get chords going from a single sequence and quantizers may have this built in. That Sinfonion is built off the Harmonaig, which would be closer to "making sense" with the Matriarch if you must have your chords generated from a racked module and not the keyboard or something else. Just remember that the synth's keyboard isn't going to behave normally while you're sequencing the oscillators. Look at the Behringer 1027 as a much cheaper option.

I would stick with the more basic toolbox modules mentioned above and then see how you feel after a month or two. The Matriarch's magic is coming from the base component modules. You could go nuts with envelopes and mixers and companion VCO's and make it behave polyphonically if you wanted to but you'd be halfway to the price of a moog ONE with 1/4th of the voices. So really imo at this stage it's better to get some time with the synth and see what you keep reaching for while patching rather than to whiteboard it to death if you're submitting things like the Sinfonion as a question.

If I had to come up with a partner 120hp row to permanently sit on the Matriarch it would look something like this. These modules tend to get the most mileage with the synth.
-- ku14

Awesome, thanks for that response....I happen to just order a Matriarch case for mine from Erik Needham Woodworks....it will have three rows of 150 HP....2 x 3U and 1 x 1U....I'll have the Zorx Electronics 1U CV Bus and Bus Expander...as well as their 1U Through module which does what that Back 2 Front module does...I considered adding the ST Modular Toolbox 1U to fill in that 1U row.

Definitely looking at Batumi and considered Triple Sloths (and maybe another cool NLC module).

Any thoughts on what might be a good sequencer to throw in there? I was considering Metropolix

Also considered (if I could find one) a Sinfonion...maybe overkill for using with the Matriarch?

If I had to come up with a partner 120hp row to permanently sit on the Matriarch it would look something like this. These modules tend to get the most mileage with the synth.

The rear panel module is very useful and is so cheap that something equivalent should have been included with the synth.
She desperately needs more mults and attenuators/attenuverters.
Chaos/random CV (I use Wogglebug and Sloths).
More LFOs or envelopes and a VCA/mixer or two to help with those.
Ring mod if you like it, imo much better with something external to free up the built-in modules.
A high pass filter so you can run mixer -> hpf -> stereo lpf.
Your favorite stereo effect or a pedal interface module like strymon's AA.1. Patching from the filter -> your effect -> back into the matriarch's delay is a dream for example.
Lots of options for this since the Matriarch feels so "finished" in most ways to me, really depends on what you are doing with it and where you want to go. A Pam's might be an easy suggestion for some people but I don't really sync up that much modulation with the Moog in practice. It does so much work on its own that I find myself mostly using "the more basic stuff" to augment it.

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Wondering if anybody else here has a Matriarch that they use with their eurorack and if so, what modules do you feel really go well with it?

Voice Patch Notes

Moog Subharmonicon to Steady State Fate Dipole [with incoming cv from Xaoc Zadar] to Intellijel Quad VCA [to use as pre stereo attenuator] to Qu-Bit Aurora out to Left and Right channels.

Winterbloom Castor & Pollux to Joranalogue Compare 2 to Arcus Audio VCA [with incoming cv from Xaoc Zadar] out to Canter channel.

Guitar into Boredbrain Injectr to Schlappi Engineering 100 Grit toMutable Instruments Clouds to Endorphin.es Milky Way out to Center channel.

Mother 32 out to Center channel.

Here is my new spectral harmonic three tier rack featuring a Subharmonicon, Qu-Bit Aurora, Castor & Pollux, Injectr, and Dipole. I absolutly love it. Please come check out my first sketch using them together. Premiere today at 2PM EST:

Hi everyone,

I have some substantial bills coming up and need to move some gear, wouldn't normaly ask and I hope this is okay, I don't want to be annoying so I will only ask once.

Please take a look at my items for sale, I am open for sensible offers and yes I guess you could take advantage of my vulnerable position if you are that way inclined.

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If you are looking for some new music, I have a tryptych on bandcamp. The 3 LPs kel, mettle and scope are a complete work and stand listening from beginning to end if you like this kind of thing. I have had excellent reviews from the few folk who have taken the time to settle down and give them a good listen. It's kinda 'got to be in the mood' music I guess, but it is all live takes of performances on modular synths so 100% at home here. Please check it out, the whole discography is only £13.65 and if you want a discount on that you can get 20% off with the code 'modulargrid' without the quotes.

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If there's nothing for you here then I sincerely wish you well and hope you have a great day

Great trade with @normalledout. Excellent packing job, fast shipping, and good communication.

Most Eurorack sequencers allow for some interaction during live performance - muting and unmuting steps or changing the sequence's length, direction etc. But typically the notes themselves remain fixed.
With the sequencer mode on Doboz's TSNM, you get something closer to live improvisation - almost like a looper.
Patch notes included.

Hello !

If you're not interested in the multi track part, an ES-8 would maybe a better solution, it is smaller and cheaper.
For the midi part, and since you want to go into polyphony, I would choose the FH-2 from Expert sleepers. It is very power full and you can add expanders to your needs for outputs/voices.

Pssst! just a little tip if you plan to stay and want to pay less :

You can buy several years of unicorn account at the actual rate of 19.90.
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- You have the at the end of the comparison the possibility to buy 1 year via paypal,
- Repeat this several times and each time you add 1 year to your account (each time at the actual rate).

EDITED Jun 4th, 14:33

Website says 30 mA -12V https://learn.bela.io/products/modular/gliss/

For the first time in 10 years we have to increase the price of the Unicorn account.
From June 7, the Unicorn account will cost € 29.90. Til the end of the week you can still have it for the old price.
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Yes, it is now possible to hide the cat to appear to tell you to Clean up the mess!
Find it in your user settings.

And here is most of my API500. In case you are interested in that:

I got no time. For music. And for selling single modules.
Here is a complete listing:
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I would LOVE to sell in bulk. I can Package and send. There is other stuff too: Casio CZ101 for Example. Or a Roland BX 800.
PLEASE for the love of God - don't make me sell the single modules

Thanks @Sweelinck Its probably more acid trance than Techno but thats how techno was back then before Trance got all light and fluffy and more minimalist Detroit techno took over and made music just a touch more boring.
The bit at the end is another patch and uses the Error Instruments Soundscaper through a couple of Delays.

Cheers

It's got good features for it's size, and I would recommend it for a small case (like a 104HP 4U, for example, that's where I use mine). However, I'd recommend something larger with a more friendly user interface and more features if you have more space available.

Still an issue. Doing my head in lately...