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Recently I've been using Nano Ona for bass, I think it was somebody here turned me on to it when they mentioned they had used it for a bass sound I liked, it's got a couple of more complex waveforms that are great for mixing with the usual sine, triangle, saw, and square/pulse, plus there are two different sub-octave outputs that can be used for this purpose as well. The price is nice too.
Can you recommend such a mixer? I have the Addac and Tritone in the spare row. Should these be incorporated.
I thought I was doing ok on the mixer front
well, there's ok and there's OK!!! hehehe
I use a tesseract modular tex-mix, which I like quite a lot - it's modular and expandable and has a decent range of features - all channels have panning, mutes, cue and effects send - mono channels also have vcas... it's also available both ready built and DIY (I like a bit of DIY & this DIY is easy - it's basically just the panel furniture) - you buy/build a master section (with the send/returns master out and headphone jack and groups of 4 channels, either mono or stereo, there are also direct output modules for connecting to your audio interface, for example... sends are mono/returns are stereo... but if you have a stereo channels module they can be patched to work in stereo (as the a send is only L & the B send is only R) - some people complain about a bit of bleed (which has never bothered me) but I have worked this out to be related to the sends, at least for me... muting a channel does not cut the send... this is a relatively inexpensive solution... it's just the one that I have and like working with, especially for the price! others to look at might be the befaco hexmix/hexpander, wmd performance mixer (if you can find one - may be a new version in the future from ammt) and the frap tools version (which is really a high end and high priced version of the tex-mix) never actually used any of these though - so can't really recommend any...
but saying that one of these probably doesn't replace any of your existing mixers, it'll just make how you use them different, they'll become sub- mixers...
good to see you've got a vcam - I don't have one but I do really like my matrix mixers!
I don't like having spare modules lieing about - I'd much rather have some blind panels in the cases - so I'd be buying another case about now and trying to work out how to join 3 mantises together... I'm sure there are some ideas in the mantis thread on modwiggler... this may actually help your issue too... some space between modules can help with workflow...
Not sure how the wife would feel about that and I can see the blinds being slowly replaced by modules.
well it's a good test of whether she's a keeper or not...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
Ah, interesting! If I recall correctly I've only pasted a URL in. I once knew HTML... Now that you mention it, I think I may have used a hyphen and a greater than sign to denote signal flow in a builder's note. When I get a chance I'll go try some things and report back. Thanks for the info!
And most welcome--it's a very useful resource for ideas and planning. Recently I tried reorganizing my rack on the fly without MG, and it took far longer with more furrowed brows!
A bit late to the conversation, but a fairly inexpensive module to add more low-end would be the tiptop audio fold (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tiptop-audio-fold-processor). You do need an oscillator to feed it, which might be a downside for you. However you could use any oscillator I believe, especially sine wave are working just fine (I'm mostly using one from Qu-Bit's Tone filter in self-oscillating mode).
Besides a wavefolder, which sounds pretty awesome in low-end in my opinion, you get square wave outputs from the source frequency plus 1, 2 and 3 octave shifts down. You can mix these together however you like.
Also, modulating the "fold" and "inject" with CV has a big impact on subdivided output as well. It makes for a sort of pulse-width modulation effect. Divkid has of course an excellent video on it, highlighting the sub out and its modulation as well:
ok why are the spare modules not in the case (other than obvious space issues)?
That's purely why except the clock divider which I'd love to use but its depth is a pain and will only fit in one spot in each case. I'd rather not have spares and will sell what I don't need but this is kind of the advice I am seeking. What to keep and what to get rid off.
another way to look at it is to group by voices... starting at the left with oscillators, but you generally still end up with sequencing (control) at bottom left and end of chain mixer at bottom right... if of course you have an end of chain mixer, which it doesn't look like
Can you recommend such a mixer? I have the Addac and Tritone in the spare row. Should these be incorporated.
I thought I was doing ok on the mixer front
I don't like having spare modules lieing about - I'd much rather have some blind panels in the cases - so I'd be buying another case about now and trying to work out how to join 3 mantises together... I'm sure there are some ideas in the mantis thread on modwiggler... this may actually help your issue too... some space between modules can help with workflow...
Not sure how the wife would feel about that and I can see the blinds being slowly replaced by modules.
I've got the Kit here waiting to build, hoping its going to be just the thing to match with my Acidrain Chainsaw's stereo outs.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
And given the choice in excellent modules of about 4 to 8 HP I'm sure it will be a nice little companion for my synths in a few years or months. :)
I would also serioulsy consider larger modules than this - otherwise ergonomics will become an issue!
I've already orderd my next module: an envelope follower/gate.
I've got my eyes on a few sample & hold modules like the Doepfer A-118-2, Doepfer A-184-1 or the Erica Synths Pico LFO/S&H. I'll see what modules I'll want to/need connect to the S&H of my choosing.
Next might be an oscillator.
-- MeneerJansen
odd hp modules are a pita.... you end pu with gaps... personally I try to avoid abything less than 4hp and prefer bigger modules where possible... much easier to get at the knobs then!
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
I am not 100% sure what happens because I cannot reproduce the problem but it can be related to a sanitize function that is executed before save:
all html tags are filtered out of the comments when you save. If you had pasted something into the form which looks like broken html it may have the undesired result that text will be deleted.
Message me if you have a text snippet that triggers that behaviour so I can look into it deeper.
... and thanks for supporting!
I'd grab a midi->cv module soonish - using v/oct for the cutoff is a classic technique...
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I'm not sure I'd have got into modular just to get a filter - there are 'pedals' that can do that
re the voltage mismatch: this is what offset modules are for - something like the happy nerding 3 * mia, for example - attenuate/attenuvert and offset... it's why we keep saying utilities are so important... (see signasture)
-- JimHowell1970
You're right. That's why I went for the Nifty Case. It's got Midi to CV conversion on board: 2 CV/gate outputs for 2 Midi channels + mod + clock output. A pedal/stompbox, like you said, can do the same (w/ an envelope follower). But, like you implied I think, that might not be the ideal companion for a synthesizer: Midi to CV is.
I didn't buy these modules to keep it at that. I wanted to dip my toes in. The way it is now 85% (72 of the 84 HP) of the case is still empty and ready for future "G.A.S.". And given the choice in excellent modules of about 4 to 8 HP I'm sure it will be a nice little companion for my synths in a few years or months. :)
I've already orderd my next module: an envelope follower/gate.
I've got my eyes on a few sample & hold modules like the Doepfer A-118-2, Doepfer A-184-1 or the Erica Synths Pico LFO/S&H. I'll see what modules I'll want to/need connect to the S&H of my choosing.
If you want immediate satisfaction for the sounds you seem to be hunting for, I would encourage you to go with any voice module from NOISE ENGINEERING.
-- AEROCATONE
+1
Knowing that:
‘Today, we say goodbye to four of our popular modules: Basimilus Iteritas Alter, Manis Iteritas, Cursus Iteritas, and Ataraxic Iteritas’. (The Noise Engineering Blog - 08/15/2023).
I'll add a dark horse just to mix things up: the Joranalogue Orbit 3. It's best known as a chaos-based LFO, but it goes into audio rate with a flip of a switch and sounds great for bass.
I like Gnarly Times A a lot too @farkas, learning to do live looping with the Squid Salmple has been nice!! No spring reverb on these track, I do have the Doepfer one but I kept getting weird interference... I'd like to try the Intellijel one since it lets you wire up the tank outside of the rack... matter of fact I should pop on over to Control and see if they restocked it 😆
Yeah, man! Gnarly Times A is the winner here! I don't know if you had Ukraine in mind when working on this, but it was very evocative of a wartorn landscape to me. Kind of an early industrial vibe too, which I love. Also, shout out to your Ohio friend. I'm always happy to hear from an Ohioan. :)
I don't know if you have tried out the Doepfer spring reverb (or the Intellijel). I bet you would get a lot of use out of the feedback path in one of those. I kept thinking I was hearing just a little bit of spring in your tracks. Good work! Thanks for sharing (and for the support on my recent track).
If you want immediate satisfaction for the sounds you seem to be hunting for, I would encourage you to go with any voice module from NOISE ENGINEERING.
So I bought the Rides In The Storm 'SED' filter. At first I wanted the copy of the famous Moog modular filter from Behringer (the 904A) but it was sold out everywhere. And it's meant for the typical way that the Moog modular system of the late 60's works. Hmmmm. Module after module appeared not to work the way I thought/expected, so I went safe and bought 2 modules (EG and Filter) from the same manufacturer.
I'd grab a midi->cv module soonish - using v/oct for the cutoff is a classic technique...
I like the Dreadbox 'Eudemonia' 24 dB/oct filter too, but I read in it's manual that the CV needs to be operated at -5 V to +5 V (which is the standard for an LFO, not an envelope generator). The other input is labelled 1V/oct which I think is meant for keyboard tracking, not an envelope (the 'SED''s got both!). Getting into modular is hard if you ain't got no experience yet.
see above re: v/oct...
I'm not sure I'd have got into modular just to get a filter - there are 'pedals' that can do that - especially for the moog filter - a moogerfooger lpf would have done the job - expensive and only available on the used market in hardware form - but may have alleviated the modular bug/gas! also I think dreadbox make or made some standalone filters and then there's teh obvious sherman filter bank etc...
re the voltage mismatch: this is what offset modules are for - something like the happy nerding 3 * mia, for example - attenuate/attenuvert and offset... it's why we keep saying utilities are so important... (see signasture)
Anyway, I'm more than happy with the two. They have a ton of functionality, some of it a bit "under the hood". For many modules the manual ain't very good/informative. I might post my personals "how to" I wrote down in a text document on the two.
Gonna buy me an evelope follower with Gate functionality soon so I can use the filter with an audio siganl (like an auto-Wah).
-- MeneerJansen
envelope follower with gate is a good idea - always useful - you might want more envelopes then though!!!
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
ok why are the spare modules not in the case (other than obvious space issues)?
I generally follow the layout of an arp 2600, but with utilities spread all over.. where they make sense...
so sound sources (& any inputs), filters, modulation, effects, control, final output mixing...
start top left, finish bottom right... this works for me in my main audio cases... I basically have sound sources on the top row, modulation on the next row down (with some filters etc to the right), filters on the next row down, percussion next row (waveshapers, logic etc to right), sequencing to the left on 2 rows and on the right effects above end of chain mixer
another way to look at it is to group by voices... starting at the left with oscillators, but you generally still end up with sequencing (control) at bottom left and end of chain mixer at bottom right... if of course you have an end of chain mixer, which it doesn't look like
if you have the top mantis vertical and the bottom one horizontal I'd move the data to the top case... same with the squid salmple...
I don't like having spare modules lieing about - I'd much rather have some blind panels in the cases - so I'd be buying another case about now and trying to work out how to join 3 mantises together... I'm sure there are some ideas in the mantis thread on modwiggler... this may actually help your issue too... some space between modules can help with workflow...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
That's where the NCOM comes in @JimHowell1970 😆
-- troux
indeed, but a bit pricey for a basic clock divider for creating a sub - I have a dreadbox div - that works perfectly for -1 & -2 8ves & cost almost nothing... unfortunately discontinued...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
Yep, it would suck HP very fast. I'm going to end up with more Mixers and Stereo Mixers taking up HP in my racks than I'd like, I'm already taking up 62HP for Mixing in my cases and I still need/want more!
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Just write your company name somewhere in the module description text and it will be found when users check the "other/unkn own" checkbox. If your modules are bit more known and/or you are ready to ship some you can apply for a manufacturer entry.
I understand that you find that "not right" but most users want to decide if they want to see the more obscure modules or the more polished ones. That's why we moderate the manufacturer entries.
It's all explained here: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/801
Hey thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. A lot of work indeed 😂 I'll have to see if I can be patient enough to do it :) Excellent case by the way!
Yeah, thanks. That's something I've thought about quite a bit. Because I always had live performance in mind, I decided to forego stereo. Everything is running into one bass amp, so there really isn't a point there (and even in the hypothetical case of a bigger show with a house pa, I don't want to mess with it). But it's also a matter of hp. I'd have to give something up even to put in, say, NE Xer Dualis (which I had in there), and I'd want more utitilities to manage stereo paths. For recording sessions where I want stereo, I think I'll just have a small stereo breakout/mixing case that this can run out to.
One real bonus of going mono, though: it allows me to use the Arbhar's onboard reverb!
I use a photo editing program to create custom images for custom modules. So in ModularGrid create your rack with one or more empty 1U sections and then download images of the modules you want to have in there. (it's also helpful to grab a screen shot of the whole case) In your photo editing app rotate the modules and then proportionally resize them so that they are the correct size relative to your rack size and then paste them into the rack screen shot. Fill up the entire width of the rack with what you need and then select 1u tall sections that are the entire width of your case and save that as a new image. Then in modular grid add your new private 1U images and when you are done you can load those super wide 1U modules into your rack. If you want your power and cost metrics for the rack to be accurate, in the notes section list all of the modules and the individual costs and power requirements and then add them up manually and put the totals in the correct places. Since I wind up with some modules spanning across two 1U sections I just put the totals in the bottom 1U section and then set the top 1U section to uses no power and costs $0.
It's a real pain to do, especially when modules span across 1U sections because I don't have the skills or patience to split the images perfectly and usually settle for "close enough". Some times when rearranging the case I'll avoid making changes in those sections just because I know I'll have to do all of the tedious work to make the ModularGrid image look correct! 😒😅 In fact I have several changes I've made that I need to update but have been putting it off for months! 😊
Good luck on getting yours setup!
Ah I know, I have a case with a sideways section myself :) I meant in the modulargrid planner :)
Hey could I ask how you did the sideways modules? Are they custom entries as 1U or something?
-- quantumi Hi, they are just standard 3U modules mounted sideways in my DIY custom rail frame. You can see some details of what the lower and upper frames look like starting just before the 22:00 minute mark in the video. :-)
In the user preferences under https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/view you find a new fieldset called Planner Menu Preferences. Here you can check which entries you like to see in the planner action menu. Options are Push Buttons and/or Flip Button (or none of both).
You can select both but the space will be very narrow on slim modules.
Keybord shortcuts are still available even if you hide the buttons.
-- modulargrid
Ah I know, I have a case with a sideways section myself :) I meant in the modulargrid planner :)
Hey could I ask how you did the sideways modules? Are they custom entries as 1U or something?
-- quantumi Hi, they are just standard 3U modules mounted sideways in my DIY custom rail frame. You can see some details of what the lower and upper frames look like starting just before the 22:00 minute mark in the video. :-)
I took the "El Cheapo" plunge a few days ago and bought me a Nifty Case and 2 very small modules. I think it'll last me quite a while though. Because nowadays thare are a mother-load of modules to choose from that are only 4 to 8 HP wide.
-- MeneerJansen
What 2 modules did you buy? (Ah I have justed seen your 2 modules on your eurorack)
My set up began with a Plaits clone (Behringer Brains- but at 16HP its bigger than the original) as it was cheaper but meant I had a module that was my voice. I could play around with it and start my eurorack journey. I also bought a Ladik composser N (as my random turing machine) which is great and I think 4HP but as it was explained to me I did not have a "clock" to trigger the Ladik. So I went on the hunt for a second hand Pamelas new workout - which is amazing and have started to make more interesting sounds. The menu is very simple to pick up but I am now wondering what to get next?
My set up will become a semi/generative ambient unit in time but am in no rush to fill a case...just looking at modules wondering what will go well with what I have so far? Maybe I can buy another module before the end of the year.
-- EuroBadger
That Behringer Brains module will keep you busy for quite a while I think! Excellent choice for a versatile oscillator/voice.
I bought the 2 modules that are on the 'My Modular' here on Modulargrid. I wanted an extension for my other synths. As is the case with most people, the modular setup isn't exactly my first synth. As a matter of fact: I've got more than enough of 'm. So no shortage of oscillators and (Midi) sequencers. But I wanted a 24 dB/oct filter.
So I bought the Rides In The Storm 'SED' filter. At first I wanted the copy of the famous Moog modular filter from Behringer (the 904A) but it was sold out everywhere. And it's meant for the typical way that the Moog modular system of the late 60's works. Hmmmm. Module after module appeared not to work the way I thought/expected, so I went safe and bought 2 modules (EG and Filter) from the same manufacturer.
I like the Dreadbox 'Eudemonia' 24 dB/oct filter too, but I read in it's manual that the CV needs to be operated at -5 V to +5 V (which is the standard for an LFO, not an envelope generator). The other input is labelled 1V/oct which I think is meant for keyboard tracking, not an envelope (the 'SED''s got both!). Getting into modular is hard if you ain't got no experience yet.
Anyway, I'm more than happy with the two. They have a ton of functionality, some of it a bit "under the hood". For many modules the manual ain't very good/informative. I might post my personals "how to" I wrote down in a text document on the two.
Gonna buy me an evelope follower with Gate functionality soon so I can use the filter with an audio siganl (like an auto-Wah).
In the user preferences under https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/view you find a new fieldset called Planner Menu Preferences. Here you can check which entries you like to see in the planner action menu. Options are Push Buttons and/or Flip Button (or none of both).
You can select both but the space will be very narrow on slim modules.
Keybord shortcuts are still available even if you hide the buttons.
In the user preferences under https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/view you find a new fieldset called Planner Menu Preferences. Here you can check which entries you like to see in the planner action menu. Options are Push Buttons and/or Flip Button.
You can select both but the space will be very narrow on slim modules.
Hey could I ask how you did the sideways modules? Are they custom entries as 1U or something?
-- quantumi Hi, they are just standard 3U modules mounted sideways in my DIY custom rail frame. You can see some details of what the lower and upper frames look like starting just before the 22:00 minute mark in the video. :-)
Only one point, you look to be missing out on stereo Mixing but I'm guessing that isn't an issue for you.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
I've been working on this for a while (a few years), and it's a really solid setup in my home studio. I pair this rack with my double bass, which I also have some pedals for (in front of the modular input). I also use an 0-ctrl for external sequencing. The sort of basic/init patch is to run the live bass, aux out from Lubadh, and Arbhar outs into the Switch 4; those get mixed to mono by the 2hp mix and go out to an amp. But the two switchable outs are routed back to the inputs of the Lubadh and Arbhar. This allows not only looping/overdubbing of the bass on the modules, but also to send the audio around the system for resampling. This requires a bit of additional switching that, along with triggering recording and erasing, is controlled by foot via the ADDAC311.
I'm now at the point where I'm going to be playing out, and I'm wondering if any experienced folks on the forum see any potential pitfalls to avoid or problems that maybe I've overlooked?
Here is a link to my current rack which is housed in 2 Tiptop Mantis's. The bottom 5th row is there to show my current spare modules.
For a bit of background I was made redundant in 2020 in the wake of Covid19 and was fortunate enough to recieve a generous package. This left me with a bit of cash and a lot of time and having been interested in getting into modular I thought I'd jump right in.
So a few years later and I've clearly spent a bit on this new hobby. Prior to modular I was playing with DAW's and synth apps before buying a B##&%#* Neutron.
My problem is I'm finding it difficult to settle on a workflow which feels natural. I've juggled these modules around a few times now but as Tool once said "nothing seems to satisfy".
I want to make heavy distorded techno. I'm into Chem Bros, NIN, Deadmaus, Prodigy. Breakbeats etc and also Psytrance.
Are there any modules I could lose , swap out or aquire?
I've resisted posting a request for a while but I do feel kinda stuck. I hope one of you gurus out there will be so kind to have a look for me.
also, btw, regarding the Flip feature - the Keyboard Shortcut you mentioned doesn't apply to people who use their phones to access MG, which is what I do 99% of the time (and surely many others do as well).
I notice that the site admin has not posted since August 11th so it's very possible that they are currently unavailable or on vacation etc.
It's possible that some changes were made before this which inadvertently affected some existing features - the disappearance of the flip button when a module is selected coincided with the appearance of the > buttons which 'bunch up' the modules in left/right directions - this new feature is not something I'd use, whereas I use the flip function a LOT (I guess I'm weird like that) :)
I'm very hesitant to complain too loudly until the site admin at least has a chance to investigate and maybe fix.
But then I'm not paying for a unicorn account so that's maybe easier for me to say.
Overall I don't think the site has been crippled on tablet platforms in the past, but it's definitely not a good idea to make some features only accessible via hovering/keyboard shortcuts. As you say 'hovering' is not really a thing on tablets so there needs to be some other way imho.
Here's hoping that a solution will be made available soon.
Anything which requires hovering (which is simply not a tablet thing) and pressing a keyboard key (which relatively few tablets have available) is rather hostile to touchscreen devices. Add to that the horrible performance of ModularGrid on the macos version of Safari, and it is pretty clear that the site operator expects it to be used in Chrome, on Windows, with a mouse and keyboard. Which is really unfortunate given how great of a resource the site is otherwise.
I was reflecting on my NCOM answer and was thinking that this is where we're missing @Lugia nowadays. If he were here he'd be advising you to build your own low bass by mixing in multiple oscillators that are slighly detuned to get that super fat sound. He's got a post somewhere about this (or maybe a few) that I'll go try and dig up.
-- troux
yes that's how to get a 'phat' bass - mix slightly detuned oscillators together before filtering them... but it won't give you a sub bass - the easy way to that is a clock divider...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
For those of us who rely on Modular Grid for module research, it would be extremely helpful, especially for those cases where the manufacturer no longer exists, or documentation was spotty.
Maybe even allow for the more industrious technical writers among us to create new user manuals where none previously existed?
Location could be within each module's page, or a forum heading, or a separate area of the site by manufacturer, or some combination thereof.
Speaking for myself, I have a lot of modules, but not a lot of modular experience (the robustness of my rack is purely owing to an opportunistic purchase at an estate sale), so I get a lot of benefit from manuals. Tracking them down (for example, to ensure they're actually plugged in correctly), though, is very time consuming and often frustrating.
But when I find them, they are eminently more useful than scrolling forever through YouTube videos hoping to find a loopop or Robin Vincent or Chris Meyer or Tim Shoebridge deep dive with section headings so I can find the thing I'm trying to do without watching all 20-60 minutes of the video.
I think a manual repository would be really helpful to many people, with my own preference bing one in a separate area of the site, organized by manufacturer, with links to individual manuals within module pages.
I was reflecting on my NCOM answer and was thinking that this is where we're missing @Lugia nowadays. If he were here he'd be advising you to build your own low bass by mixing in multiple oscillators that are slighly detuned to get that super fat sound. He's got a post somewhere about this (or maybe a few) that I'll go try and dig up.
I took the "El Cheapo" plunge a few days ago and bought me a Nifty Case and 2 very small modules. I think it'll last me quite a while though. Because nowadays thare are a mother-load of modules to choose from that are only 4 to 8 HP wide.
-- MeneerJansen
What 2 modules did you buy? (Ah I have justed seen your 2 modules on your eurorack)
My set up began with a Plaits clone (Behringer Brains- but at 16HP its bigger than the original) as it was cheaper but meant I had a module that was my voice. I could play around with it and start my eurorack journey. I also bought a Ladik composser N (as my random turing machine) which is great and I think 4HP but as it was explained to me I did not have a "clock" to trigger the Ladik. So I went on the hunt for a second hand Pamelas new workout - which is amazing and have started to make more interesting sounds. The menu is very simple to pick up but I am now wondering what to get next?
My set up will become a semi/generative ambient unit in time but am in no rush to fill a case...just looking at modules wondering what will go well with what I have so far? Maybe I can buy another module before the end of the year.
I'd recommend looking at Yester Versio from Noise Engineering. It feels like a good, "basic" starting point from their delay options. And if you want to try something a bit more experimental, you can easily switch the firmware to a different Versio, like Electus that was mentioned above, or Imitor or Melotus.
Intellijel also just announced Sealegs recently. The demos sound great, and I'm thinking I might give up my Magneto for one as Sealegs has a digital tape delay mode, and I've never really gotten along with the Magneto all that well (probably my issues, not the Magneto's).
I would recommend against a Beads for your first delay. I haven't had the time to get super familar with mine, but it's definitely not what I think to go to for most delay-type sounds.