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great and awesome sellers: @He_lium and @moriyama !!
be carefull with @davidauthior sold me broken module.

Anyone else out there that can help? Would love to get as much guidance as possible from some seasoned folks before I take the plunge. I feel like there are brands and actual modules out there that I am missing out on. Also, some additional tips and recommendations on the current configuration would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Right on, so I got rid of the moog (sucks cause I really wanted the moog sound in there, though I know I can just get it tabletop and still mess around like that). I added the Make Noise DPO, Make Noise function generator, Intellijel VCA 2, Intellijel uMod 2, and the intellijel mutagen as a mixer. Unfortunately, even though I know what belongs inside the rig, I do not completely understand what purpose some of the mods serve. For example, what do the VCAs do and why are more than one important? Also, could you recommend a good 4hp mod to squeeze in as the last piece? Other than that I am open to recommendations with swapping my current mods.

Apologies for the newbie questions, but I am still reading up and researching. Going to take the final plunge and buy everything hopefully in the beginning of June. Appreciate your help!

You're going to need some vcas (audio and cv), mixing (again, audio and cv)

So, I'd say consider loosing maybe the moog, and replacing it with an osc, two or more channels of VCA, mixers, envelopes etc.

You also have a ton of clocking, so maybe reduce some of that. Rcd probably redundant with the tempi. Plus yarns does lots of clock/sequencing.

So this is my first ever modular system. After messing around with a few different configurations, I decided to go with a three row system and get a bunch of fun toys to mess around with. As this is my first go around, I am not completely sure if I have the right mods to keep the system running. I covered osc, filters, effects, EGs, midi interface, and some other random mods.

Please take a look and let me know if I am missing any important modules. Also, any other advice would be great and please feel free to provide criticism as I am here to learn what is best:)

Thanks! -Craig.m

@box78 and @methodius are good traders, well packed and fast shipped modules!

EDITED May 13th 2016, 14:36

UPDATE: We built a few Gristleizers incorrectly at first based on a typo in our in-house build guide, and that caused us to think something was wrong with the CV inputs. We found out what was wrong and fixed the problem. Your Gristleizer will happily take any type of positive or negative CV input now!

EDITED Aug 29th 2016, 15:09

"WARNING: DO NOT APPLY POSITIVE CONTROL VOLTAGES TO ANY INPUT. Use ONLY negative control voltages, and do not exceed -10 volts total."

What?
So I have to dig out a voltmeter or oscilloscope every time I use this module, plus use up 3 offsets for full control.
Ridiculous.

Hello gents. What was the resolution of this issue? I have run into something similar in my setup. I have a PGH foundation 3.1+ with a bottom row of Maths,wogglebug, and optomix. Recently added a clouds,phonogene and erbe-verb. After about 15-30 minutes of patching I lost all power to the case (used to work fine without the 3 latest modules). I have to power off and power on and then all modules come back up and remain online for about 15 minutes and then the power drops again. I removed the clouds last night and had no power issues for 3 hours.

For one thing, the anti envelope was never made. And also, make sure you really read up on some of these modules and their issues.

Above all listen to demos. There's a lot of variety in every module, some geared towards dirty sounds, some pristine, some intentionally chaotic that embrace analog flaws whether good or bad, etc.

The 'one manufacturer per row' thing is nice to look at, but you end up limited yourself with choices based solely on hp. If anything, pick 2 decent companies and do 2 rows each. I'm a huge fan of Intellijel and it covers most of my system, but I still space stuff out to be more convenient instead visually aesthetically pleasing.
-- exper

The 'one manufacturer per row' thing is nice to look at, but you end up limited yourself with choices based solely on hp.

That was pretty true for me.

Last night I made an alternate version, changing all the Make Noise to Analogue Systems which I'm still thinking of changing to be more like this

Will probably ditch the 1 per row idea for more cohesion but if there's nothing mechanically wrong with this I might give half of it a shot one day.
Version I did last night:

EDITED May 11th 2016, 19:26

Hey guys,

I am a proud owner of the mother 32 as of recently and plan to go into the wild world of modular systems.
As I am very new to the whole concept would really appreciate to hear your thoughts and comments on this rig I came up with.
The whole idea is to route it to a computer and use external midi controllers as well as cv automation tools and record everything back in the PC.

@bark thanks for the great transaction. Fast delivery, safe packing and good communication.

For one thing, the anti envelope was never made. And also, make sure you really read up on some of these modules and their issues.

Above all listen to demos. There's a lot of variety in every module, some geared towards dirty sounds, some pristine, some intentionally chaotic that embrace analog flaws whether good or bad, etc.

The 'one manufacturer per row' thing is nice to look at, but you end up limited yourself with choices based solely on hp. If anything, pick 2 decent companies and do 2 rows each. I'm a huge fan of Intellijel and it covers most of my system, but I still space stuff out to be more convenient instead visually aesthetically pleasing.

I've never made a modular before, so I just wanted to make sure everything will work. Missing any necessary modules? I'm pretty picky about organization, so each company has their own row. I'm thinking of filling the last row with Make Noise but not sure. Is there anything that would cause the system to just not work at all? Too many of one kind of module? Not enough?

EDITED May 10th 2016, 20:56

a check box to delete multiple message would nice to tidy up the inbox outbox

Hello, I recently stumbled upon modulargrid and its a really great planning tool! Altough I have some suggestions: instead of the drop down menu to choose from a single brand and module type, a checkbox type would be cool. Because I have a limited choice of manufacturers here in germany, so I could like only check doepfer, mfb and some others, but no other manufacturers.
Thank you!

EDITED May 10th 2016, 08:54

Still learning - here is my fledgling system.

Any comments / suggestions appreciated

Best wishes,

headless

bought a analogue solutions SY-02 from @Zigge . Very nice, fast shipping, very good communication and module in perfect shape : all good!!!

I "think" you should be ok. I know I've used an adapter like that in the past, and simply attenuated an output into headphones, so this should be ok level wise. I'm not 100% sure, but there might eventually be a headphone 1u module from intellijel. I know that they have plans for much more in the format.

ah, of course :) but in terms of volume levels?

Well, I think you'd need a stereo to mono adapter for that to work. Otherwise the sound would only come out of 1 ear...

http://www.showmecables.com/product/3-5mm-Stereo-Jack-to-3-5mm-Mono-Plug.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_campaign=957&gclid=CIi3n9WHy8wCFdhahgodrqoFOA

would this work as a mono headphone out?

Curious if the Tempi would be redundant for someone who already has a QCD/expander - anybody have a demo of Tempi doing a few tricks?

supa sound !

This new version makes more sense. More like the Buchla or Sputnik ones.

Some really useful refinements. Thanks for sharing the details.

Yes.

First the cv inputs are normalized so that a cv into attack can be sent to both attack and decay.

Next the eoc outputs have been greatly improved and now trigger anything.

And I think the quadrature mode has been simplified.

I can see the cosmetic differences, but are there functional differences between this and the original? Reference: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-quadra-expander

Just in case someone down the line is curious... I ended up getting one to try. I have plenty of power in my case, but it doesn't work. This tile puts out 200ma and the BSP needs 500ma. Bummer.

Open Music Labs now has fully assembled open-source Euro modules available using the x0x-heart (TB303 analogue section replica). Panel re-design by Grayscale. Check out the already funded campaign: https://www.crowdsupply.com/open-music-labs/x0x-heart-eurorack

Currently taking suggestions for stretch goals/product options. Thoughts (some from MW thread): red (blood-coloured) anodized knobs, laser engraved/cut wood panel, full DIY kit version.

MG here: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-x0x-heart-eurorack-module

Features
* CV control of frequency, gate, accent, slide, env-mod, decay, and cut-off
* Switches for waveform selection (square and sawtooth), external/internal oscillator mix
* VCA and VCF outputs

Specs
* Eurorack standard format (3U height)
* 18hp
* ~1.75in depth (45mm)
* +/-12V current draw 10mA
* 5V current draw: 50mA
* 10” Euro power cable (16 pin to 10 pin connector)

Includes
* Black anodized aluminum knobs with a diamond knurl pattern and two set screws (with slot heads and flat points)
* A .063” (1.6mm) highly durable satin aluminum Metalphoto panel with a black print

https://www.crowdsupply.com/open-music-labs/x0x-heart-eurorack

EDITED May 5th 2016, 01:01

This will be my very first modular rack. So I'd really appreciate some advice from the more experienced guys on this forum.
The idea was that I'd be able to run polyphonic (4 voices) sequences, but still have a lot of modulation possibilities. Since I have zero experience in the modular world (apart from researching for some months. I have a lot of experience with software synths though) I'm afraid of design flaws in the rack I'm planning. For example whether there a too little VCAs in my rack, which makes it unusable. I'd be glad if some of you gave their opinions.

Yep, had a very easy and quick buying experience with Junk Rhythm. Thanks!

I had a perfect transaction with @jdev earlier today. We met in person and everything was super smooth from start to finish. Thank you!

I don't believe it's buffered. Or if it is, I read lots of complaints that it still has signal loss. And buffering has nothing to do with loudness. It preserves the output voltage levels when send to destinations such as mults.
-- exper

ur right, i mean CV power not loudness :D
thx....for tha reply

I don't believe it's buffered. Or if it is, I read lots of complaints that it still has signal loss. And buffering has nothing to do with loudness. It preserves the output voltage levels when send to destinations such as mults.

A potential buyer of this modul found a information about the slew, i not found.
is it buffered or unbuffered?
is buffered better because loudness compensation?

Thx
Cheers...

Had a smooth and easy transaction with @solipsistnation. Thanks!

Putting together a collaborative percussive type rig to skiff out of my larger case.
This seems like a nice set up to "pop out" of my 9u.

I just had very pleasant experiences buying from jdev and Junk Rhythm.

-- solipsistnation

Thank you for the kind words. @solipsistnation was great to deal with. Excellent communication and prompt.

EDITED May 3rd 2016, 06:02

I just had very pleasant experiences buying from jdev and Junk Rhythm.

I guess you could refer to sequencing as discrete modulation, steps of defined value executed in order (typically used for pitch) whereas folks often prefer continuous, smooth value changes for modulation - e.g. for flowing changes in timbre / tone color.

If you really want to go modular I'd suggest to sell the Sub 37 and get a Moog Mother instead. I did the same and couldn't be any happier with the choice. The Sub has very limited capabilities to connect to a modular system (the CV inputs are limited to filter, pitch, volume and gate).

Imho sequencing is a specific type of modulation. so.. both?

Hello all,
I have been working on my modular, and I have a nice case built that stands over the top of the MS-20 mini. I then picked up an original Arp Odyssey, that is loads of fun. The Arp has some useful patch points located on the back. CV, gate, and trig ins and outs. I will be making a eurorack panel that holds all the patch points of the Arp, so they will be right in front of me, and it will look cool too. This is my current set of modules that I have, and I am looking for some feedback on the next one I should get. I usually prefer to build DIY kits when they are available. Thanks for your input.

thanks for additional info haha, def noted and added to the rack. any recommendations for the case other than the Moog stuff? something decently priced...
-- abesirevic

also, here are some cheap modules that do some cool stuff:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/music-thing-modular-radio-music
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/music-thing-modular-turing-machine-mk-ii
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/expert-sleepers-disting
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/synthrotek-echo
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/ryo-optodist

this is where modular synths get good!

i highly reccomend getting that 3 tier moog rack, and just starting out with the stuff you have there, and i have a reason for that:

people describe getting a new module feeling like its a entirly new synth. if you bought the modules you have setup on your rack, youll have room left to order more in the future.

if you just order everything at once, you wont have any more room for more modules. and eventually, you'll grow bored of it.

so order modules over time, not all at once.

as for price, its tough to find a good quailty piece of equiptment at a decent price. but ive been researching for months for the best prices, and the 2 cheapest brands of modules (while still having great quality) is EMW and ladik.

EMW has about everything you need. They are cheaply priced and offer good sounds, which is good if you're on a budget.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modules/browser?SearchName=&SearchVendor=154&SearchFunction=&SearchSecondaryfunction=&SearchTe=&SearchTemethod=max&SearchBuildtype=a&SearchMarketplace=&SearchIsmodeled=&SearchShowothers=1&SearchShow1u=&order=popular

ladik is even cheaper than EMW, and also has good sound. I have the ladik VCO1 and it sounds pretty fantastic.
HOWEVER! Be note of this: the depth of ladik is huge, this isn't a good thing.

When I mean depth, I mean how far the module goes back. the ladik VCO1 and the filter bank I have are so close to touching the back of my rack, which is really annoying cause it blocks the patch for adding more modules. the only way to prevent that is to have a case that has more depth, which usually isnt too big a problem. heres a picture http://imgur.com/LMQme6z

You can usually check the depth of a module in the specs. In a module info page, it'll usually say "x mm depth"

basically, ladik is great because the most expensive module they have is $134. but they can take up some space, so make sure your case is big enough! https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modules/browser?SearchName=&SearchVendor=215&SearchFunction=&SearchSecondaryfunction=&SearchTe=&SearchTemethod=max&SearchBuildtype=a&SearchMarketplace=&SearchIsmodeled=&SearchShowothers=1&SearchShow1u=&order=popular

i know im giving you giant answers for small questions, but I know where your coming from and I want to help as much as possible.

thanks for additional info haha, def noted and added to the rack. any recommendations for the case other than the Moog stuff? something decently priced...

yeah man a couple months ago I was in the same position you were in. took me months to get my head around the powering part.

as for the module, I'd say its pretty good. you have everything you need since you would be able to patch a function from the Mother-32 to any of the other modules. for the roland effect module, if you run your synth through a DAW (like me), you can add digital VST effects (saves $). but if you dont than you can keep it.

only thing I would get differently is the case. get a bigger case than you need. this is because if you ever want to add something new, you won't have room. Meaning the only way to get that new module would to buy another case with another power supply and blah blah. i would get that 3 tier mother-32 rack, just to stay on the safe side.

FYI very important: i noticed you don't have a Output module. this is important because without it, you have no way to connect your synth to an amplifier (the thing that connects to your studio monitors/speakers). the output module I use (and think is fuckin rockin) is the Pittburg OUTS Mk II https://www.modulargrid.net/e/pittsburgh-modular-outs-mk-ii

P.S.: if you dont have an amplifier (like the Scarlett 2i2) connecting to speakers, your synth will basically be a box with knobs.

now, if you were like me, you might be completly lost into getting sound to actually come out of your synth. if you need a complete run down on setting it up, I can tell you. it isnt complicated.

im headin to bed, its 2 AM where im at. ill respond in the mornin.

also, if you need reference to anything, here's my current rack

EDITED Apr 30th 2016, 06:18

thanks for the info. I knew i needed a power module but wasn't sure where to start, so it's awesome you picked up on that. as far as modules go, what do you think?

well you're gonne need a power supply!

power supply works like this: you have a power module (which plugs into a wall), and on the inside of the module there is a flying busboard, with little boxes. when you get a new module, you plug the ribbon cable into that busboard.

now, I am not sure if the Mother-32 has a built in power supply, but it probably doesn't. you're gonna wanna pick up a power supply. the most popular one is the uZeus https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tiptop-audio-uzeus. it has 10 slots for modules.

it is reccomended to be included into 84 HP rack, but if you have 2 rows of 60 HP you should be good.