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looking for feedback on the nifty keys layout rack I made a plan for.
is it viable for a newbie... don't want to burn any moduels or make to retarded newcomer mistakes. any guidance apriciated.
unsure how to link the rack in question to this post... but it should be public on my profile.
thanks a bunch😄🔥
How do I handle possessiveness in my relationship?
🔹 Anna_B – Feb 21, 2025, 11:00 AM
I’ve been with my boyfriend for almost a year, but recently, he’s become super possessive. If I go out with friends or spend time with family, he gets upset and starts accusing me of not caring. It’s draining. I understand he loves me, but this feels like control rather than affection. Any advice on how to deal with this?
🔹 David_G – Feb 21, 2025, 11:30 AM
Possessiveness can be tricky. Sometimes, it stems from deep insecurity or past experiences, but it’s important to set boundaries. If he loves and respects you, he should trust you. You have every right to spend time with others without feeling guilty. Have you tried talking to him about how his behavior makes you feel? Communication is key.
🔹 Olivia_T – Feb 21, 2025, 11:45 AM
I’ve been in a similar situation before, and it really hurt my mental health. In the beginning, it feels like they care too much, but soon enough, it becomes controlling. I ended up feeling trapped and isolated. It’s important to talk it out, but if he’s unwilling to change, you might have to ask yourself if this is the relationship you want. Everyone deserves a healthy, trusting connection.
🔹 Jason_H – Feb 21, 2025, 12:00 PM
I totally agree with Olivia. If it’s getting to the point where it feels like you’re walking on eggshells just to have some space, that’s a huge red flag. A relationship should empower you, not make you feel trapped. If you’re ever looking for a change of pace and want to enjoy yourself without the emotional rollercoaster, this link https://www.tenderbang.com/fuck-tonight.html might be worth checking out. Life’s too short to be in a relationship that makes you feel like you’re losing yourself.
Feeling like I've not stabbed a pattern into the Beatstep for a while for some straight up acid tweaking, so here it is, no frills squelch and squeak!
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
I've had a Maschine+ since the beginning of the year and am still practicing producing Gabber/Early Hardcore. I would love to add Euroracks to the Maschine+. Percussion and bass are samples via Maschine+ and leads via modules.
Can anyone recommend a small setup for me to get started?
Thank you!
Best wishes
Jens
Hallo Zusammen!
Ich habe seit Anfang des Jahres eine Maschine+ und übe noch etwas in der Produktion von Gabber/Early Hardcore. Sehr gerne würde ich die Maschine+ mit Euroracks ergänzen. Percussion, Bass sind samples über Maschine+ und Leads über Module.
Wer kann mir hier beim Einstieg ein kleines Setup zum Einstieg empfehlen?
Every rack wants a Pam's Pro Workout as a master clock.
A Nanorings instead of an original Rings will save you money and 6hp, and work and sound the same.
Calsynth makes a nice one, as does Michigan Synth Works.
Because you're looking at the Doepfer MIDI modules, maybe consider the a-190-5 Polyphonic MIDI controller.
It does what the a-190-2 does x4, and provides many more tricks with the kinds of voice modules you have.
If you stick with the A-190-2 MIDI module, note that the A-140-2 ADSR can be automatically triggered
by the 190-2 if they share the same bus. Saves two wires, overrides with patch cables.
Have it live next to the MIDI module.
Mults. Look at the Frap Tools 333 ProAudio Sum and Distribution module. I use it in almost everything.
6hp, cheap, solid, dead on clean and accurate, and handy for adding CVs (and audio) together,
and then mult-ing them out. I also like the Rides in the Storm QAM Quad multiple.
Very well made at a good price.
You could use more meat and potatoes. Will that A-119 comparitor earn it's 8hp of space?
The A-121-3 multimode filter is 4hp and could help tame and shape some outputs.
Next to that, an A-145-4 quad LFO, because everything could use a little more wobble.
Far more utility in 8hp than the comparitor.
I'll hate myself for this, but a used Maths is going for around $290.
A new Behringer Abacus is $59. Ugly as sin, built to a price, but $231(!) cheaper.
I feel so dirty now.
Modules from 2hp always seem like a great idea until you use them.
This is a collaberative album made by myself and my buddy Bode Gustav, and it was released on his label. He made some original material with his computer and plugins and sent it to me. I then ran it into the ms20 low pass filter on grone and clouds, and processed it. Thanks for listening! If you have any questions or comments about it please feel free to ask or post.
I would reconsider the Octogain: .....
How are you planning to integrate the drumbrute?
-- teataine
Thanks for the helpful reply! Everything you said makex a lot of sense. I switched out the Rabbit Hole for a stereo distortion and put in a matrix mixer after doing some research, that's exactly what I was looking for. This is where I've landed!
With the drumbrute, for now I'll just use it for the master clock for effect syncs. Eventually I'd like to build out a small drum module to port the kick, snare and hi hats out to some better sounds/effects but for now I'm gonna crank the internal compression and hope they've improved the sounds from the OG drumbrute. I loved the feel and flow, but it sounded like a toy lol.
I would reconsider the Octogain: it's a ART/Polytip (or whatever they're calling them now) module, which is meant to integrate with other Tiptop modules from the same line so it's kinda wasted potential (and it hasn't been officially released yet). If your main signal path will be morphagene->effects then you only have one pair of stereo outs to worry about and 8 mixer/vca channels seems kinda overkill. I'd definitely look into a smaller mixer/vca combo and add another modulation source/utility. A matrix mixer would also be really powerful in this rack because you could redirect the flow from one effect to another, feed them back into themselves and reorder your signal path. Looking at the Rabbit hole, it's a summing mixer, so be aware you'd be losing the stereo image from Morphagene and your effects (find a way to do parallell processing or an alternative stereo saturation/grit module).
Hey y'all, so like the title says I've created a goal for my first eurorack system and I'm wondering if there are enough function modules? I want to make sure I'm not forgetting anything in the design but I'm pretty new to eurorack so I definitely could have.
The idea is to feed the Morphagene into the Nautilus and Mojave to granularize and restructure non-melodic recordings into glitchy ambient noise, which would then have a gnarly bite added with the Rabbit hole. The maths is for envelope shaping, I would pair this with an external drumsource (thinking the drumbrute impact). The Octagain would mix and provide VCA. I've managed to cram a mult right in the middle, but might swap it with the Divkid OCHD for more generative motion. I'm really happy the modules I was looking at all happily line up to the 108U standard.
so also finally uploaded my first youtube demo with a set. i also talk about why i like to play with modular synthesizers live and without a laptop or something. Live Set is starting at 5:30
I think I could use one more filter up in the upper right FM stuff, but I don't know what to get rid of.
As interesting as the Chaos Marbles clone is,
I think it's real estate is kind of wasted because its functionallity is duplicated elsewhere.
It's also pretty ugly. Behringer makes me feel dirty.
Support for the Doepfer ribbon controller and an A-111-6v will probably go there instead.
Spectravox is fun, but dark science.
Just recently sold my make noise semi-modular (0-coast, 0-ctrl & strega), to buy a sequential take 5, I was just missing so much playing the keys and doing chords, i'm really glad with it but I'm already missing the modular way of pathching and stuff (i'm a total beginner btw).
I still have few modules, that I bought or were offered to me and I want to expand my system quite a bit. I've recently looked at Monotrail Tech Talks videos and I tought it was really inspiring, and made me understand more things I guess.
This is my current setup :
I have a small clone of Clouds and a Music Thing modular too (plus a Folktek Alter X Pedal), I've decided to buy a Behringer go rack, just to get started and have enough hps. (regardless of everything that i know and read about behringer and this case in particular)
I was just wondering what to get next to improve my setup, my thoughts are on :
Am i heading in the right direction ? I just want to have fun with my system, understand things better. I want to do mainly ambient generative stuff, drone, noise and experimental stuff.
A physical modelling synthesis module.
Very simple build, the build part of the video is shorter than the demo.
And the demo is long because this is a really interesting and deep module, I could (and will) play with it for hours to find many interesting sounds.
Highly recommended and if you’re looking for a first build, pick this one it’s easy to build and great sounding when you’re done.
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Hello,
will this old module still make any sense in 2025? A digital module that is so old is it now completely outdated? Are there good new alternatives? I would be grateful for any help.
he didnt make one. he said he intended to and it got away from him.
from the thread from MW:
FOLD - with knob down the input seems to want 0 to +8V and the trim pot is an offset, CV to FOLD adds to the knob(I think)
PWM - trim knob is attenuator, with PULSE knob in the middle and the PW MOD knob at maximum a +/- 5V seems to kiss silence so slightly backing off the PW MOD knob gives the full sweep
ZWAV - with the ZWAV knob in the middle a -/+ 5V at the input take it to both extremes
ZMOD - INDEX knob is an attenuator and the input wants 0-8V
so after i switch to a skiff case a couple of months ago i now restarted everything and now im
playing again with the big monster case from doepfer. this is a live set with some loops of
old tracks and a lot of improvised sequences and especially the bassline.
Sound Source>Filter>VCA
Trigger or Gate>ADSR>out of ADSR into VCA and mult to Filter Cutoff.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
thanks for the reply ill upload a sound snip soon..i always use lfo for modulation on filters which gives movement..am I right is saying truger/gate from sequencer to adsr to CV on filter an vca. ?
Put recordings on Youtube or Soundcloud, you can then link to them here.
ADSR's / Envelopes are indeed a crucial part of modular unless all you want are Drones, imagine playing a pianio key and the length of time you hold it down is the Sustain, when you let go it rings out is the Release. Its a way of seperating notes from oneanother.
The same envelope that is used to control the Volume of the note van also control the Filter Cutoff to animate and give life and movement to that note.
At the moment my Rack/s have up to 7 envelope generators from simple Attack/Decay to ADSR's and also an LPG.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
hi i have been tweaking in modular for a couple of years now im no expert at all hence this post..when i create a techno patch I hardly ever use adsr or extra vca i pipe everything into a matrix mixer and straight into the output bus..i like the sounds im creting but find i strange thsy i hardly use envelopes or adsr am i doing something wrong ? i know who adsr work but still find it difficult to find use for them ,i know they arr used to open/close vca etc but i seam to get hood results with the need of them can anyone give me any tips of where to use them and why it would be much appreciated thsnks, have a look at my rack see what you think > If you're getting the sound you want, then it might be perfect for you.
In my experience, mixing every voice with silence in a rhythmic way is crucial—otherwise, my output tends to get muddy and overloaded.
Do you have any audio recordings? That would make it much easier to give feedback.
-- modular01
i have some recordings but just video on my phone can these be uploaded on this site ?
If you're getting the sound you want, then it might be perfect for you.
In my experience, mixing every voice with silence in a rhythmic way is crucial—otherwise, my output tends to get muddy and overloaded.
Do you have any audio recordings? That would make it much easier to give feedback.
Just confirming, I have 2 Cast Iron units cascaded with dupont cables, and it effectively works as a 2 stereo-channel mixer. Wasn't sure about this until I got the second unit so this works as beautifully as I had hoped.
hi i have been tweaking in modular for a couple of years now im no expert at all hence this post..when i create a techno patch I hardly ever use adsr or extra vca i pipe everything into a matrix mixer and straight into the output bus..i like the sounds im creting but find i strange thsy i hardly use envelopes or adsr am i doing something wrong ? i know who adsr work but still find it difficult to find use for them ,i know they arr used to open/close vca etc but i seam to get hood results with the need of them can anyone give me any tips of where to use them and why it would be much appreciated thsnks, have a look at my rack see what you think
Watch out for trees, rocks, and other obstructions. If you hit them, your run will be slowed down or maybe stopped.
Study the course: Play through the levels again to get used to the abrupt twists and Snow Rider 3D hazards. Understanding the layout enables you to foresee future events and make judgments more quickly.
The dual xfade that I suggested https://modulargrid.net/e/happy-nerding-dual-xfade is a CV-controllable crossfader, but it can double as a VCA if you use only one of the inputs and adjust the knobs appropriately. The Doepfer A-133-2 https://modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-133-2 is different in that it's a bipolar VCA and can not only modulate the amplitude of a signal, but also it's polarity, which allows for other creative uses and ring modulation. The CalSynth 2VCA https://modulargrid.net/e/calsynth-2vca is a more standard VCA but also allows continuous adjustment of the VCA response between linear and exponential, a very handy feature to have. It also can act as a mixer of the two channels. Those three stand out to me as good 4HP VCA options, each with their own unique features!
In my experience those issues have been present for years. This is a weird fix, but it usually seems to work: 1. Take the problem modules out of the rack and set them off to the side. 2. Put the modules back where you want them, but make sure the last thing they overlap before placing them is another module in that same row. If you overlap a module in a different row just before setting the module in place, it'll sometimes kick one of them out or be misplaced upon a page refresh.
-- Chace
In my experience those issues have been present for years. This is a weird fix, but it usually seems to work: 1. Take the problem modules out of the rack and set them off to the side. 2. Put the modules back where you want them, but make sure the last thing they overlap before placing them is another module in that same row. If you overlap a module in a different row just before setting the module in place, it'll sometimes kick one of them out or be misplaced upon a page refresh.
This is my rack right now:
Whenever I refresh the page, the bottom left modules glitch out:
I can move them back into the rack, but refreshing the page messes them up again. I've tried this on macOS 15.1.1 in Google Chrome in incognito mode and it gives me this problem, it also persists onto my Ubuntu computer. I also have found that placing modules is generally pretty glitchy - sometimes I'll drop a module into an empty space and a nearby module will get booted out even if they aren't overlapping. I've dealt with this for a while now and always just assumed that the website was inherently a bit buggy, but thought I should post in case it's actually just me...
Thanks again!
I'll think about your suggestions. The Batumi is really tempting, if I don't get it for the initial build it will absolutely go on the buy later list.
I'll go watch some more YouTube vids on Maths. I got it pretty high up on my next purchases list, so maybe I'll still start without it and give it to myself as a treat for whatever I come up with as a reason in a few months.
Agree with the above sentiment about Maths....it's not really that complex, in that there's no hidden menus, etc. It's all right up in front. And it's probably the best learning tool for modular. Once you understand Maths, a lot of things fall into place. Once done learning the abc's, Maths adds tons of value as a sort of "swiss-army knife" of modular.
Best of luck and have fun!!!! :)
“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
I think Maths is a better starter than, say, Ears in this case, actually. For starters, it actually does everything Ears does except the contact mic stuff, which is pretty easy to set up at home. You can start by using it for simple duties (envelopes, complex modulated LFOs, logic, and yes, envelope following like what Ears will do) and then explore more concepts though Youtube and the manual. It can even make an interesting filter or traditional oscillator to experiment with. From there, it'll be pretty easy to figure out which of the functions you use separately enough to warrant its own module. Having both at some point will be helpful, but for now having a Maths alongside these modules will allow you to experiment with multiple robust and musical case arrangements/patches in far more ways.
Do you like the Doepfer A-143-3 specifically? I love Doepfer modules too, and that one does seem nice and roomy, but it doesn't seem to offer a lot of flexibility. 12 LFOs, but only four speeds/rhythms. No voltage control, even. It's also not as cheap as I expected. Free-running LFOs like that are awesome and help make modulars feel distinct and free, but there are a lot of options there that might get you more for that amount of space and not much more money. Batumi? Ochd + expander? Lots of options.
Just my two cents on those issues. You seem to be on the right track. Knowing why you're doing what you're doing is more important than doing any one specific thing.
Thanks for the feedback!
There are several goals for this setup. The main ones atm are:
1) Overcome the inertia to get a case and cables and some usable modules that allow me to fool around with patching and making new (to me) sounds I enjoy for a few months (ideally) before I get the next module (thinking about Maths or Pam's pro workout)
2) play around with the audio input of the modules (I think I might need an extra input module for that) and the envelope follower to see what it does
3) learn to use the modules as thoroughly as I can before diving into learning what Maths or another complex module can do and how to do it.
4) Maybe get some samples to use for a few beats in Ableton or with my Electribe
I bought a West Pest last year which is fun but a bit limited in terms of the sound I (think I) want, but I think I should be able to use it for sequencing, midi to cv and additional wavefolding/basic envelope stuff for a start. I also have a Microfreak, which should work as an external keyboard controller and maybe also sequencer.
I thought about a filter before I realized I should be able to use the West Pest for something filterlike and would maybe go for a Doepfer Wasp filter (coming from Germany having Doepfer in the rack seems kind of required) if the current plan does not work out.
Why I chose Rings and Clouds specially:
Since there are Plaits oscillators in the Microfreak I plan on using these as input for the other modules until I get some more modulation sources.
When I first got interested in modular some years ago MI was among the manufacturers that excited me most, so I wanted to start with these. If I had enough loose change I'd get most of those for my first system, but I guess as a normal person you have to start somewhere and pace yourself (also see in-depth learning above).
And having watched a couple dozen YouTube Videos Rings into clouds is both a "traditional combination" (to avoid the word cliché) and still seems to hold up well, especially with the additional firmware modes.
As for the FX Aid: While trying to figure out what to put in the rack I caught myself coming back to delay and reverb pedals like the El Capstan and the Big Blue Nightsky and wanted the option to experiment with additional delay and reverb stuff in the box. I still might get one of those later on since I also have a guitar standing around collecting dust but I expect the FX Aid is versatile and high-quality enough to stave off my GAS for a few more months.
What are you sequencing with? Is "Rings into Clouds" the voice you want to focus on (nothing wrong with it - just checking), or are you planning on running external audio through this or adding a more traditional oscillator? If the two are being considered the main sound source here, why Rings but not Elements or Plaits? What do you imagine doing with this, exactly?
It's not that I want to question your motives or suggest these are a bad start. I don't necessarily think you need to make a standard subtractive voice. This is one of those setups where you could get very good and usable stuff out of it. That setup could also be frustrating depending on what you expect. We need more info before making any suggestions.
That being said, I think an envelope generator (preferably with multiple envelopes, like a Maths or a Doepfer A-143-1) and a filter are sorely missing here. The former most of all. Also, I wouldn't spend any more real estate on effects even if you are going with a Mantis case. Those are things I can say pretty confidently now.
I was warned against coming here about a dozen years ago (expensiveness of the hobby etc.) and therefore missed out on a lot of bloops and bleeps. I finally have a bit of hobby-money and a sort of a midlife -crisis and would like to invest in a small system that will probably grow over the next years. I think this Idea is sort of a minimum viable system (Soundsource, modifier, utilities, effects, output) and am thinking about putting it all in a mantis case. Different external sound sources and additional effects are also available. Any thoughts or tips about things I may have overlooked would be appreciated.
Edit: For some reason the Image does not show the recent changes I made. I hope that's just a problem at my end.
Hi everyone,
I have to let go of a few things to gather funds for something. I have an unused Blackhole case, the 104HP version, in red for sale.
I originally purchased it with the intent of having two cases but have since decided to keep one case and have separate studio racks for other setups. Some modules have been installed but were subsequently removed without it being in use.
Message me if interested to discuss a price / shipping rate that works for both of us. Please send reasonable offers only as it is in new condition.
