Do I need more vcas

This is my rack mainly for dark ambient will sequence with beatstep pro and a sq-1

Do I need more vcas

Yes.

No.

Yes & No.

Personally I think you might be OK with Veils and those 2 LPG's.

We really can't have enough VCAs, right? For example for modulating your modulation, but yeah with veils and LPGs you should come a long way.

can't see the rack - so that answer is probably yes

EDITED Dec 28th 2022, 02:33

attached the dark ambient rack from broken-form

attached the dark ambient rack from broken-form
-- zuggamasta

thank zuggamasta - in that case maybe not...

each channel of the tex-mix has a vca built in... as does plaits - so probably for audio there's no need for more vcas -

BUT it mightn't hurt to have some more for modulating modulation

thanks guys

im away from the studio due to work,so havent had time to actually use beatstep pro as sequencer yet.

can i use it to sequence the E352,plaits and the boba fat at the same time?

can i use it to sequence the E352,plaits and the boba fat at the same time?
-- Broken-Form

yes... one of the pitch sequencer channels for each of e352 & plaits (if you're using plaits as a melodic voice or to change mode) and 2 of the drum sequencer channels for the boba fet (& 1 for plaits if you're using it for a percussion voice)

you could also send both outputs of plaits to 2 vcas and use a pair of the drum sequencer channels to choose between them - different hats for example

can i use it to sequence the E352,plaits and the boba fat at the same time?
-- Broken-Form

yes... one of the pitch sequencer channels for each of e352 & plaits (if you're using plaits as a melodic voice or to change mode) and 2 of the drum sequencer channels for the boba fet (& 1 for plaits if you're using it for a percussion voice)

you could also send both outputs of plaits to 2 vcas and use a pair of the drum sequencer channels to choose between them - different hats for example

-- JimHowell1970

awesome im making ambient music so first my plan is to only use the boba fat asa drum voice,and E352 and plaits for drony stuff

can i use it to sequence the E352,plaits and the boba fat at the same time?
-- Broken-Form

yes... one of the pitch sequencer channels for each of e352 & plaits (if you're using plaits as a melodic voice or to change mode) and 2 of the drum sequencer channels for the boba fet (& 1 for plaits if you're using it for a percussion voice)

you could also send both outputs of plaits to 2 vcas and use a pair of the drum sequencer channels to choose between them - different hats for example

-- JimHowell1970

awesome im making ambient music so first my plan is to only use the boba fat asa drum voice,and E352 and plaits for drony stuff

-- Broken-Form

np

in that case just use the pitch out from the 2 pitch channels - and nothing plugged into the level or trigger inputs on plaits

have fun!

awesome thanks.
whats the best way to sync my pams new workout with beatstep pro?(i dont have any expander for pams new workout)

awesome thanks.
whats the best way to sync my pams new workout with beatstep pro?(i dont have any expander for pams new workout)
-- Broken-Form

you don't need an expander for Pams

depends:

BSP as master - use one of the drum triggers and patch that into the clock in of Pams - but Pams works best with higher ppqn (pulses per quarter note) which may be inappropriate on the BSP so the other way round is probably better

Pams as master - use one of the channels of Pams to send clock to BSP -> clock in - decide on a ppqn - and set that up using the BSP control software and set the clock multiplier on Pams to match it - 16 or 24 ppqn is probably best - although lower may work perfectly - you may want to experiment a bit

thanks jim

i will probaly post more questions here soon:)

thanks jim

i will probaly post more questions here soon:)
-- Broken-Form

NP

thanks jim

i will probaly post more questions here soon:)
-- Broken-Form

NP
-- JimHowell1970

Hi again jim

just tried messing with it,but cant seem to find where in the BSP software(midi control center)you set up the ppqn?

just tried messing with it,but cant seem to find where in the BSP software(midi control center)you set up the ppqn?

it's under device settings/sync: clock in/out settings - you can choose 1 step. 24ppq, 48ppq or 2ppq (korg) - you need to connect your BSP to your computer to access the device settings!

just tried messing with it,but cant seem to find where in the BSP software(midi control center)you set up the ppqn?

it's under device settings/sync: clock in/out settings - you can choose 1 step. 24ppq, 48ppq or 2ppq (korg) - you need to connect your BSP to your computer to access the device settings!

-- JimHowell1970

found it,i missed first that you could scroll down:)

found it,i missed first that you could scroll down:)

and now it works,now i just need to learn how the BSP Works:)

could use some help organising my rack,could someone take a try in placing my modules in a good flow?

could use some help organising my rack,could someone take a try in placing my modules in a good flow?
-- Broken-Form

which one? you've got 4 public racks...

maybe start a new thread with a link (copy & paste url)!

this rack

dont know if its only the jpg

It might be worth looking into a fixed filter bank with CV control like the Addac601

I had a play around with the rack, not sure if this works but its where I'd probably start if I was handed a box of modules and I hadn't patched with the system yet:

gonna try to mess around with the A1008 matrix mixer today,saw a video about the instruo Lion matrix mixer,think thats abit easier for my brain to figure out,so considering replacing the A1008 with that.

but gonna try to patch around with the A1008

gonna try to mess around with the A1008 matrix mixer today,saw a video about the instruo Lion matrix mixer,think thats abit easier for my brain to figure out,so considering replacing the A1008 with that.

but gonna try to patch around with the A1008
-- Broken-Form

being a bit of a 'champion' of matrix mixers I see the instruo lion as a outlier in that it functions in a considerably different way than any other matrix mixer and has dongles that are needed to operate it... so in a way non-transferable skills to other matrix mixers & at least in my case I'd spend lots of time searching for the dongles every time I wanted to use it... I'm sure it's a great module though!!!

smaller matrix mixers often have a layout where the jacks are all at the bottom of the module - which can in my opinion be a little confusing

the easiest matrix mixers to use are ones that have the inputs to the left and the outputs on the bottom - which is why I mostly recommend the doepfer - ergonomics and signal flow win over size every time

this might be a dumb question,but

today i messed around with the modular,right now my E352 plays by itself no matter what,would it be possible to trigger it with my pressure points?so i choose when it will play?

Yes, if you run the E352 output to a VCA. Trigger an envelope with your Pressure Points and have the envelope open your VCA.

Yes, if you run the E352 output to a VCA. Trigger an envelope with your Pressure Points and have the envelope open your VCA.
-- farkas

ok gonna try and see how i can patch this up using the veils module

Yes, if you run the E352 output to a VCA. Trigger an envelope with your Pressure Points and have the envelope open your VCA.
-- farkas

Farkas,just tried it but think i might have done something wrong,couldnt get it working,could you try and walk me through how precisely to patch this up?

Yes, if you run the E352 output to a VCA. Trigger an envelope with your Pressure Points and have the envelope open your VCA.
-- farkas

Farkas,just tried it but think i might have done something wrong,couldnt get it working,could you try and walk me through how precisely to patch this up?

-- Broken-Form

can you tell us exactly how you are patching this - it'll probably be easier to 'debug' what you are doing...

but:
audio out of e352-> audio in of vca
gate out of pressure points->gate in of envelope generator
envelope generator out->cv in of vca
out of vca->whatever you are using to monitor (mixer) -> headphones/speakers etc

Yes, if you run the E352 output to a VCA. Trigger an envelope with your Pressure Points and have the envelope open your VCA.
-- farkas

Farkas,just tried it but think i might have done something wrong,couldnt get it working,could you try and walk me through how precisely to patch this up?

-- Broken-Form

can you tell us exactly how you are patching this - it'll probably be easier to 'debug' what you are doing...

but:
audio out of e352-> audio in of vca
gate out of pressure points->gate in of envelope generator
envelope generator out->cv in of vca
out of vca->whatever you are using to monitor (mixer) -> headphones/speakers etc
-- JimHowell1970

thanks will try to follow,the only envelope generator i have is Zadar,and havent really used it yet.also have the brain expander to pressure points

I would recommend you look at the patch examples in the Pressure Points manual. This is a very basic building block synth patch that they call "Tactile Keyboard," I believe.
Have fun and good luck.