As long as you only use the square and pulse waves, and never turn up the VCF's resonance, sure!

Hey guys, thanks for the replies,
I'll consider getting the 6U rack, I think it's the sensible choice just in case I need more space in the future. Regarding the modules sizes, I guess the shapeshifter and the erbe-verb are the guilty ones, can you suggest smaller replacements for them?

I've watched a couple of videos about the Expert Sleepers Disting suggested by Laupellim, it seems a very powerful module, however, at this point I'm not sure I would know how to use it or how to patch it with the 2s, there's a lot I still need to learn. Right now I lean towards something that can produce smooth and soft sounds, as the 2s can already pretty harsh.

Designed this version of a Casio Sk-1 (my first sampler at age 10), around a Doepfer A-112 module in a Happy Ending kit.

What do you think?

Bought Marbles from @yrn1. Arrived after 4 days, perfect conditions as described. Recommended!

EDITED Feb 7th 2019, 15:40

Lugia> Thank you for your advice. I was intend to use Pico Drum as just tiny sample player not only for drum. Yes, it seems godd idea to replace with DSP for stereo out.
Power supply, I have changed rack configuration and put a uZeus now.

EDITED Mar 21st 2019, 01:04

The PICO Drums seems like a poor choice to me, especially if you have drums on some of your other devices (like the Elektron gear). It would make a lot more sense to have gone with a PICO DSP so that you can have mono-to-stereo FX as part of the build. This would leave 1 hp (like it does now) which I'd suggest you fill with a Konstant Labs Power Checker...probably the smartest thing anyone can put in a 1 hp 'hole'.

The other thing I'm puzzling over is that if this is in a Happy Ending mounting and not something with a powered cab, where's your power supply?

Not sure about that. I managed to fit an ADDAC812VU which is 35 mm deep, with no problems.
-- ParanormalPatroler hhhmmmm, weird. I measured mine with fairly decent digital caliper.

Not sure about that. I managed to fit an ADDAC812VU which is 35 mm deep, with no problems.

Ideally, with those 4ms pods, could a mismatch in depth be highlighted?
-- liquid_air

Unfortunately the data here cannot be fully trusted. I run into such an issue where the depth info both in MG and in the manufacturer's manual is not true, which made me purchase a module which ought to fit in a Pod but didn't. 2hp Rnd v1 still has depth set as 34mm last time I checked and I had to reach out to manufacturer for a change. Real depth is 45mm with power cable, 40mm without. Both are too deep for a Pod and I have no idea why they don't state the real depth.
-- ParanormalPatroler I know! I bought a 2hp NSE and it's deeper then stated and wont fit in a Pod.

Also 4ms seems to have over stated the Pod depth at 34.1mm, from my measurements 32mm and under will fit, under 33mm might fit, and over 33mm probably wont fit. Maybe their prototypes and/or manufacturing proofs were 34.1mm deep but the production copies ended up a little shallower?

Ideally, with those 4ms pods, could a mismatch in depth be highlighted?
-- liquid_air

Unfortunately the data here cannot be fully trusted. I run into such an issue where the depth info both in MG and in the manufacturer's manual is not true, which made me purchase a module which ought to fit in a Pod but didn't. 2hp Rnd v1 still has depth set as 34mm last time I checked and I had to reach out to manufacturer for a change. Real depth is 45mm with power cable, 40mm without. Both are too deep for a Pod and I have no idea why they don't state the real depth.

Is there a way to have different rows to have different widths to plan module arrangements across different cases in one convenient location?
Say four rows 3U 88HP with an Intellijel 7U 104HP case.
-- liquid_air

You could just make one big case with many rows and then fill in the "shorter rows" with blind panels?

Perfect transaction with @fredeke - great comms, well packaged, fast delivery :)

Is there a way to have different rows to have different widths to plan module arrangements across different cases in one convenient location?

Say four rows 3U 88HP with an Intellijel 7U 104HP case.

no, that is not possible

Ideally, with those 4ms pods, could a mismatch in depth be highlighted?
-- liquid_air

In the Data Sheets view of your rack you see the deepest modules like in a spreadsheet view.

Hello What to you thinks about this modular ?

This is my first modular synth rack on Tiptop Audio Happy Ending Kit.
Currently I only have left three modules, Plaits, Rings and Marbles.
I also have Moog32, DFAM, 0-coast beside this, and some other synths, microKorg, microbrute, Rocket and Elektron boxes.
I am going to control via Keystep and SQ1. May also connect with Analog four.

I agree with Lugia— I have a MB 2 and a MB 2S and the 3U rack can feel very limiting. (Currently working with one 6u and one 3u rack now.) Perhaps you might want to try a smaller module like Expert Sleepers Disting which would add a lot of functionality. Also echoing the thoughts regarding filter — adding Polaris to my rack made a lot of new sounds possible. Finally, you may find the clock limiting on the 2S. A small clock divider/multiplier is really handy. 4ms makes a quad clock distributor that would allow you to trigger events at different rates. Good luck!

EDITED Feb 6th 2019, 05:51

Tempi Parameters

Uses the default 16 States, except State 1 uses Channel 1 @ 2x multiplication (other 5 channels are 1x as default)

BIA Parameter Changes

• musical effects achieved by varying
  Attack (from 12 o'clock to added noise and back),
  Decay (from CCW to a bit, rhythmically),
  Fold

Blofeld Parameters

Saved into B037 as "Home Improvement" it is an edited version of "House HS", maintains the interval relationships (for now) and basic waveshapes, but the user varies the Filter Env and Amp Env. There is also 50% keytracking on the filter cutoff
- can experiment with applying the LFO at varying speeds to Pitch and/or FM

Overview

The name comes from both an edited version of the "House HS" preset on the Waldorf Blofeld, but also a feeling that with this patch i've achieved a new layer of complexity and sonic interest.

Some key components here (some of which having not been used before):
1. KeyStep Sequencer Overdub Recording: where changing tempos of notes inputted changes the tempo on the Tempi (takes KS Gate Out as Leading Tempo)
2. KeyStep varying gate lengths, with interplay between KS gate lengths and Rings Damping length
3. Ears Contact Mic with Blofeld audio in
4. Ears Gate Out (dependent on both key press velocity (because Blofeld interprets it from Keystep), and Blofeld Amp/Filter Envelope values)
5. Disting B4 Clockable Delay/Echo including changing the Z Knob Feedback for different experiences of the delay
6. Tempi, Channels 1 and 2 dictating Disting's Delay Speed (CH. 1) and BIA's Trigger In (CH. 2)
7. Rings in Sympathetic Strings Mode

EDITED Feb 6th 2019, 05:15

Yes and no. Like you note, this current build is really limited. I'm presuming you'll be relying solely on the 2S's filter which is...OK, up to a point, but you could try and add something small here. The overall problem you'll be facing in a 3U Rackbrute is space, so going with large widths on your modules is a bad idea. Consider smaller alternatives or, perhaps more sensibly, go with the 6U version which would then open up another 88 hp for additional modules with which you can work in the Rackbrute or use them to alter the 2S's functions. But even then, I still suggest you keep the module sizes small...you want as much functionality as you can get in that tight a cab.

Is there a way to have different rows to have different widths to plan module arrangements across different cases in one convenient location?

Say four rows 3U 88HP with an Intellijel 7U 104HP case.

Ideally, with those 4ms pods, could a mismatch in depth be highlighted?

Should be working again.

Hi there!

I recently got a drumbrute impact and a minibrute 2s and I'm now planing to expand it with some modules. I'm a complete noob and I'd like to make sure if this setup makes any sense at all or I'm getting it completely wrong.

I wouldn't get all the modules at once - this modular thing is quite expensive - so I'd buy one at a time starting with the shapeshifter, which I could patch with the minibrute 2s sequencer and VCA. From there I think it makes sense to get more VCAs and envelope generators before getting the erbe-verb, otherwise my patches are going to be very limited.

Does this rack make any sense to expand on the minibrute 2s?

It’s a wonderful day for wavetables! Just added the super expressive Waldorf NW1 module to the rack.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bte2c42lSyx/

All of a sudden this morning it stopped displaying modules. I am signed in but my rack is but a shell. Internet Explorer 11

TrueGrid is back!

It's back!

TrueGrid is back

TrueGrid is a modular synth that runs in the browser. It was a very ambitious project in 2013 and for that reason never matured to a stable version. In times of VCV Rack I thought it does not make any sense anymore so I disabled it last year. (Though it was always kind of available if you had mad haxor skillz.)

But what the heck , some people like it, so it is back again. I have fixed a lot of small annoying bugs and added an Audio Enable/Suspend button. That is required for Chrome, because that browser does not allow to blast audio on page load anymore.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/synth

Wow, thank you Lugia for your extremely detailed explanations and your effort! This is absolutely inspiring, it is much more than I had tested in my modular grid rack. Need to wrap my head around it now. I know that I really need stereo delay and am thinking if a more multi effect with all these mod sources, but it‘s a great start!

EDITED Feb 5th 2019, 11:18

Hi Benjolin users!

We know the Benjolin is pretty much a instrument by itself, very capable of generating streams of amazing events with little tweaking effort. Lately though I have been experimenting with combining the Benjolin with other modules, with Benjolin as the center of generative patches.

How do you use the Benjolin? Which other modules do you surround it with?
Please discuss!

Thank you!

I'm not for it, but I'm now used to it when I'm looking for something that I know should be there. But then again, I know how to do a proper search. I haven't seen a huge increase in the number of duplicates - so unless something happens let's keep it at that.

Nice!

Thanks for that round-up, some exciting stuff there that would have passed me by.

-- Dom78

Likewise :-)

EDITED Feb 5th 2019, 07:25

Careful with your module depths, tho...the 4ms pods max out at 34mm, which significantly limits your possible modules. For example, a good Maths substitute in 4hp less space would be a pair of Doepfer A-171-2s, but at 60mm depth there's no way they'd fit. The Maths, at 24mm, may in fact be the right way to go here. Let's see...(pause)...OK, this:

60 hp 4ms Pod: Konstant Labs power checker, then a Bastl Hendrickson for an input, which allows you to crossfade with the output on the module. This means that you can use the Hendrickson's 1/4" output as a "clean" channel to your amp and crossfading allows you to control your wet/dry levels, either manually or via CV. An Erica PICO RND gives you a sine/pulse LFO, clock (plus clock in from an external sync), noise and random signals and one of two sample and holds, and next to that a Doepfer A-184-1 contains the other S&H, plus a ring mod and a slew limiter to 'smooth' your S&H shifts. Maths next, then I opted for an Eventide Euro DDL for massive delay flexibility, including looping, reverse delays, tap tempo (and the Euro DDL can also serve as your master clock, clocking the PICO RND) and CV over time, feedback, delay mix and an internal LPF. Following that is something very guitar-nifty, and that's a 3-band EQ with CV over frequency on each band. Coupled with the Maths, this will allow loads of timbral shifty weirdness. The CIAO! output allows you to run the EQ in either series or parallel, since it has dual stereo ins. Oh, and a headphone amp, too. Now, this doesn't exactly address things like reverb, etc for stereo operation, nor does this deal with the depth issue I mentioned...but I really intended this more as an example of what's possible in that tight a cab which you can work off of as a basis for ideas.

EDITED Feb 4th 2019, 23:37

G-Storm's replications are top-notch, IMHO. I'm quite familiar with the sound of both the Jupiter-6 VCF (mine is sitting about 5 feet to my left) and the ARP 4012 VCF from the original ARP 2600 versions (loads of experience with those), and they pretty much nail the sound of the originals while adding a few extra bonuses such as dual inputs and much smaller sizes than quite a few of the other replications. Noting that you had the Jove in there was a big key in opting for that change, freeing up that extra chunk of space.

Thanks, best is probably to just start with anything and go from there.

EDITED Feb 4th 2019, 20:19

@Lugia I love that G-Storm Jupiter-6 filter, sounds amazing from the demos. And that Happy Nerding 3x VCA looks awesome... Never knew that was even a thing!

So here's what I'm tentatively settling on at the moment:

The only things I'm tossing around are perhaps replacing one of the two DigiVerb 1U's with a second Pedal I/O, or perhaps replacing the uRings 8HP with some other tasty thing, maybe utility, another filter, or even more VCAs. Not sure if that additional voice is more important over other capabilities...

Thanks again for your depth of insight!!! Much appreciated...

I finally found an Intellijel 104HP in stock and ordered... Most are sold out here in the US... I'll be building it out over the coming months... I may not have a wife by the end of this journey... LOL...

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2hp EG times two comes to mind. Add to that LFO, Mix, VCA as needed. All of that in half the rack space of a single Maths.

Thanks for that round-up, some exciting stuff there that would have passed me by.

The Harmonaigh gives the intervals from one source but gives a 1v/Oct signal for each so you need four good stable oscillators to get the most from it, you’ll probably find you use the Distings for reverb/delay/mod and controlling mod and you’ll probably want Plonk on percussive more than harmonic duties.Qu-bit’s chord generates it’s own sound for each and with V2 coming out soon the original unit might be pretty affordable(seen a couple on eBay already since NAMM) Quadnic’s got a polyphonic mode too and the wave sequencing mode with this is fantastic but no decent demos really, I’ve got both and if I’d picked up the Quadnic first I probably wouldn’t of bought Chord but I’m glad I’ve got it and doubt I’ll part with it anytime soon if that makes sense. I’ve not tried Marbles so can’t really comment on whether it would stand up to the task of sequencing everything but whilst it’s capabilities are quite exciting I wouldn’t personally want to be without a more traditional sequencer as well.

EDITED Feb 4th 2019, 15:39

Hey guys,

I‘m thinking about replacing my Memory Man delay pedal (used for the Se-02 / 0-coast / digitakt) with something that allows deeper delay/reverb/sound transformations:

• 4ms pod 60 powered
• Erica synths Black Hole 2 or 4ms dual looping delay or similar
• a small fx modul to transform/shape the sound if enough space (ringmod, filter, etc)
• Modulation source

Modulation source:
Maths is overkill for this setup I think (is it?), but what alternative(s) come(s) closest in terms of depth of possibilities and is small enough to fit in a 4ms pod?

Thanks a lot!

Frank

EDITED Feb 4th 2019, 15:42

Thanks for the answer,

I think the Harmonàig takes cv and spits a 3rd 5th and 7th out isnt? I was thinking to take for example x1 of marbles to the cv in of harmonaig and take the cv outs to other OSCs like osc 1 and 2 of neutron, plonk or other osc from disting mk4. Would that work?

For sequencing, I am relying mainly on Marbles, as I am planning this eurorack as an ambient machine, mainly with the use of controlled randomization, and chance

And the neutron there is mainly as I have it, and to keep things under 2k as a starting point :).

Would that work?

You’re not going to do much with the Harmonaigh with that setup and I’d definitely keep the Neutron standalone, are you sequencing from external sources?

Hi there!

I'm about to pull the trigger and get my first 6U. I have the Neutron so that is my starting point. I have been exploring for something like a year since I met modular last year. I wanted some recommendations on my sketch and I have not been able to get some on other groups. Here is my sketch:

My main interest in modular is tamed randomization, quantized polyrhythmic, or not synced sequences, mixed sound sources like analog VCO's with physical modeling, etc. I chose an insert fx module since I have pedals I like to use with synth.

Drums are not in my needs since I prefer boxes for that.

Thanks in advance

Overview

• A simple patch to get to know Ears by Mutable Music Things, based on the first patch in DivKid's overview video:
• Ears' Microphone/Audio Out is sent to the Audio Input of Rings, while its' Gate is set to the Trigger Input on Disting F6: Shift Register Random Quantized CV's
• Disting F6 takes each gate and advances a random sequence, which is usually free running but sometimes the sequence is locked in place (length: 16) by turning Z knob hard CW
• Disting A Output goes to Rings 1v/oct
• Rings' Brightness is modulated by a Sine LFO from DixieII, whose Linear FM input is itself modulated by the CH. 1 Unity Output on Maths (Maths is cycling with the AD envelope rate being modulated by Pittsburgh Micro Sequence)
• Pittsburgh Micro Sequence is in Direction Mode #6: Transpose mode, where instead of the normal 8-steps you have 4 transposed 4-step sequences (16 steps total)
• Operating Ears is done with quick finger attacks and/or scraping with a spare patch cable

EDITED Feb 4th 2019, 06:14

Actually, this has more problems than just not enough VCAs. For instance, why have two dual ring modulators when you only have two sound sources (Mangrove and W)? That's basically three ring modulators too many. The excess of those huge Just Friends modulation sources are a problem as well. And while the Meng Qi output stage isn't a bad idea per se, it also doesn't leave you any way to control your output levels.

As for EGs, you actually have those with the Maths, albeit only rise/fall-type envelopes with a little extra trickery. The Just Friends works as these as well, but I've always viewed those as more LFO-ish. Anyway, the problem with the Maths is size; at 20 hp in this small a build, it hogs a lot of hp, then add to that the size of the Just Friends modules, and you've got more space being used for modulation than anything else. There seems to be an overall theme here; it seems as if much of this was done based on the "Top Modules" list instead of engineering the skiff build for maximum functionality, and while those are definitely good picks, they're good picks for a larger system. For a single row of 104 hp, you need to tackle the space problem as a primary issue.

Lastly, the Monome noise issue. I'm going to venture a guess that the noise in question is hum, and that when you switch in the Meng Qi's ground lift, it goes away. If that's the case, you have a ground loop, and the fault isn't any of the equipment per se, but an issue with your synth and your mixer/DAW input/etc being on different grounds and they're trying to establish a ground path through your audio line. But if the noise issue is hiss/frizz/digital hash sounds, then the problem is actually in your connecting cable, and you need a USB cable that has a ferrite isolator on it. But my guess leans very much toward the hum, as it's a lot more typical and the Monome Grid should be USB powered from the Ansible, if I remember right.

Gonna mess with this a bit...brb...

Now this accomplishes the same general ends as your build, plus adds some extra functions that you just didn't have room for. In the same 104 hp, and no deeper than 45 mm, we have...

A Konstant Labs power checker, for starters. There's an extra 1 hp left over, plus you seem to have some odd power issues, so this was a no-brainer. Then the Ansible. Next comes your Mangrove, W, and a 2 hp Sine which is a wavefolding sine VCO, added as a carrier for the ring modulator, which is in the next module along with a sample and hold, plus a slew gen. Last thing in this section is a 4 -> 1 2hp mixer.

Modulation section got majorly revamped. I went with Codex's 8 hp version of Mutable's Tides as a main LFO, then there's two PipSlopes, which are CVable AD generators with looping capability. Those do much of the same work as the VCS cores in the Maths. Four ADSRs under one panel are next with the Doepfer A-141-4, which allows you to change envelope values in a ganged fashion via CV. Taken altogether, that's actually a bit more going on than you'd find with a Maths. Then the Cold Mac goes next to these to allow complex interactions between modulation sources.

Next are a pair of Tiptop's Steiner Synthacon VCFs. An incredible multimode with loads of character, having two allows you to split your audio and impose two different filter profiles onto that. Then a Dual VCA sums these down via its two-channel mixbus and sends this on to the Sisters for final formant filter manipulation. Then, a copy of the classic Moog CP3 mixer allows you to mix (with a touch of euphonic distortion, pretty much like the Minimoog's VCO mixer, based on the CP3) the Sisters with the Tiptop duo or your Meng Qi passive LPGs, if that's desired, and it goes on to the Erica DSP for effects and stereoization. Last, we have a Happy Nerding Isolator, which gives you a stereo pair of transformer-isolated 1/4" outs with a ganged stereo level control.

This, to me, makes more sense. This not only accomplishes the same sort of functionality as your build, but adds a lot more functions and also, a lot more in the way of possible routings in both audio and modulation paths. And with the Monome gear, you now have plenty of things with which it can interact, making for a more elaborate instrument in terms of sonic potential. I'm assuming, also, that for mults you'll be using inline mult widgets of some sort, which is the best option in a space-limited build such as this.

EDITED Feb 4th 2019, 01:12