Thanks for the tip!
CV conditioning = offset, scaling, inverting, mixing of control voltages
Yes Frames is a bunch of VCAs and a mixer of sorts, but not all at the same time. Plus, Frames's special feature is switching between different settings of its 4 channels under CV control up to audio rates. Putting it to work as a bunch of bread & butter VCAs or a cheap dedicated mixer seems like a waste.
Get a dedicated multiple VCA and a 4 ch audio mixer. 2xVCX and Doepfer A-138b come to mind but are just examples (use the module browser). As a general rule I recommend cutting your teeth on a bunch of simple second hand modules and upgrade to more expensive gear when you really are able to make use of its specific features. Makes sense?
Thanks. What is CV conditioning? And Frames is a mixer or perhaps there's another type of mixer. Any makes and models for your suggestions?
How about a stereo output? I know it's not as exciting as other modules, but having a massive stereo image can be heavenly, especially with your new Morphagene! (I got one and it is amazing)
UPDATE : Batumi & Morphagene added, whoa LOT of fun !
Hello,
I would suggest to ask this question over at muffwiggler, much bigger audience.
This would be probably the right forum there:
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=158962&highlight=
Looking good! Like to elaborate about the cases and how this setup came about?
Hello everybody, excited first poster here!
In short: Anybody using Expert Sleepers ES-8 ADAT connections to get two-way communication going between Native Instruments Reaktor (or similar) via Ableton Live? What is your experience doing it like this? Any drawbacks? How is the performance and quality if you want to route audio in and out? What are the alternatives to this setup that you considered?
Background info: I've bought my Eurorack steppingstone (a Moog Mother-32, what else) a few months back and I'm looking forward to build up my own sound further. To explore the different options I have and what kind of hardware modules are worth to invest in, I would like to experiment in software, like Native Instruments Reaktor. As I want to incorporate an interface between my DAW and Eurorack anyways, the Expert Sleepers ES-8 seems to be a great option. This way I'll be able to connect my hardware to Reaktor in Ableton Live and explore what kind of modules I would like to have in hardware. Since Live on Windows is not able to handle two audio interfaces, I would use ADAT to connect the ES-8 to my Focusrite Scarlett 18i20. As I've never used any hardware in this way and there is not much information on the ES-8 available yet, this brings me to the questions above.
Photo of my live performance setup as of April 25, 2017 -
I had the pleasure of purchasing Mutable Instruments Peaks and Veils from @pabetancourt as my first purchase from a seller on Modular Grid. Great experience with accurate descriptions, great communication, with quick and well packaged shipping. A class act.
Hi everyone.
I'm a total newb in ER so I'm here to mine your deep minds on my desired set up.
I haven't done any hardware based music in about 20 years and to be honest, if it wasn't for the compact size and power of ER I don't think I'd bother. Truth is, soft synths don't do it for me anymore so here I am!
I've already bought the top row of my rack and I'm mostly happy. I haven't quite figured out what to do with frames yet but i like the look of the parasite update so it's staying for now. I think I probably err on the side of organic sounds with looser sequencing like cinematic sound design although I'd like a flexible system for the occasional tight electronic session now and again. I want to do some work with vocals and the morphagene looks great for this. Maybe I have too much modulation and not enough utility modules. What do you think?
Here's an example of some sound I like.
https://bleep.com/release/stream/78524-children-of-alice-children-of-alice
Thanks.
Batumi is on the way. For reverb/delay, I'm using external Strymon pedals or processing via my DAW. If I can get a second hand Cloud, why not..
The general people should understand what the people want from this group discussion. This http://okdissertations.com/blog/how-to-write-a-dissertation will let the people know about the quality of the services so that they can build their own philosophy.
4ms kits, like rotating clock divider, pingable quad lfo, or pingable envelope generator
I went into DIY because of Mutable: love them. I thought DIY would be my way of restraining my buys, teaching me something in the way. Now that I have a lot, I realize I should have payed more attention to what type of voice/system I was building. So, for exemple, there's an excess of VCAs...People say there's never enough VCAs, but right now I'm playing live with the upper row, (which only has the Ripples included VCA), and what I feel I lack is modulation.
Anyhow, how would you finish this rack? just DIY....
As others have answered, more modulation could be a good idea. I also think that your rack could benefit from some time modulation: delays and reverbs.
Putting together my first modular to add to my Mother-32. Any advice would be appreciated!
recently purchased a z3000 from @kncmps. super service , would recommend to the community.
Maybe I'm missing something but I would like it to be easier to tag modules as "my modules".
Assuming the modules are in a rack already, look in the Edit menu for "Add all to My Modules".
Unicorn only feature, I think.
New Unicorn user here, with a couple of feature requests:
1) On the "My Modules" tab of the rack design page, the ability to show "only modules not in the current rack". Keeping track of which modules have been added or removed is tricky with a large rack.
2) A counter for each module owned e.g. I own 2 x Mutable Links. Would be nice to keep track of how many have been used in current design, in tandem with above request.
3) Export owned modules as CSV or similar, which has been requested a while back:
Would also like to see an Excel-compatible spreadsheet of the modules generated from the program.
A CSV export might be possible, I will look into this ...
Any progress?
Cheers!
Just bought an MI Links from @restlessboy.
All good. Good communication, item as described, reasonable price, well packaged and speedily dispatched.
Recommended!
a|x
Made a good deal on a Function with @AVJR
It's the second module I buy from him.
He is very nice and quick to reply. Module was perfectly packed and in superb conditions (just like the previous module i bought from him)
If a compactflash card could talk, it would say "yes".
Leaving a thanks to @vytis for an Optomix. Very good deal, seller was friendly. Module came well packed and in good conditions
If a compactflash card could talk, it would say "yes".
...would like it to be easier to tag modules as "my modules"...If one has a lot of modules it's a pain.
-- SpittingLama
I agree, tagging like 200 modules is a pain.
But much less so than mounting them in a rack.
And you do it only once.
Maybe I'm missing something but I would like it to be easier to tag modules as "my modules". A key command would be great. If one has a lot of modules it's a pain. The only way I can see how to do it is in the results of a search. How can this be done more easily? I find being able to assemble racks from modules that I currently own to be one of the great features of MG....
Also - I haven't used the Marketplace but I speculate that, at this point, Reverb.com integration would be a no-brainer.
+1 positive feedback for @robocoder for Rene. Quick delivery, good pack and perfect condition. Always pay attention for me. So, cool seller, I think
Hey man, I came across this recently. Really interesting rack. Is this your rack multiplied to 4 levels or... do you actually intend to build this? Or did I miss something? Thanks. Best of luck!
This is a one off custom build i once sold to italy...
-- fonitronik
yes, it's mine :) I still use it all the time, amazing sounding module!
Ciao matthias!
This is a one off custom build i once sold to italy...
Well it looks like a little more digging into what these two modules do has answered my question ... noobie don't read well sometimes ... so, it's gonna be Veils as I want a 'proper' VCA in the mix. Blinds looks interesting tho, so maybe in the next skiff. Cheers, and thanks for looking. =: >
Fantastic transaction with @computersynths thru Modular Grid. Lightning Fast and secure shipping. Extremely helpful and knowledgeable about Modular, had several discussions about same. Hope to deal with again. A+++++. Thanks!
Total noob here ... and putting together a 104 HP Appendix skiff to compliment my Mother-32 set-up.
I am on the fence about the choice of VCAs mentioned above. I have Veils in my mockup case, but I'm wondering if the 'attenuverters' in the Blinds module will be more useful for shaping CV? Seems so on the surface, but maybe there are advanced modular heads that have an opinion as well?
I'm a guitar player by experience, and my style of modular mayhem is more Ambient/Melodic instead of Robotic/Chaotic if that helps. Thanks in advance ... what an amazing website and community you have here. Cheers.
So, here's the updated version.
I made a lot of room by switching to the Delptronics sequencer and drum voices. Filled up that space with a Pressure Points and a Shifty... though the Shifty might be under-used with only 2 synth voices.
Swapped the Atlantis for a Quadnic and SEM and Maths. The Quadnic might end up being great with the Shifty, but I admittedly don't have my head totally wrapped around what the Quadnic can do, just that it's a really cool waveform osc that has a ton of depth.
An alternate that I'm also curious about is replacing the Quadnic and SEM with a Doepfer A-111-4 (4 VCO) and maybe a Wasp filter.
EDIT: Changed some stuff around. Sid Guts + Beast's Chalkboard, keeping the Tidal Wave.
EDIT EDIT: Keep making changes.
Loses:
* Ultra Random Analog
* O/A/x2
* Teletype
* Ansible
* DPLPG
Gains:
* Voltage Block
* Ornament & Crime
* uVCA
Loses:
* Ansible
* Ultra Random Analog
* O/A/x2
* Teletype
* DPLPG
Gains:
* Voltage Block
* Ornament & Crimes
* Intellijel uVCA
Just bought a Synthrotech Roboto from @ronski. Fast shipping, well packed and module functioning perfectly as promised.
Thank you!
Love the idea of the three Schippmann in one rig - wow. I'm wondering what you have planned for the the bottom row. As I move towards 2419hp of rig populated with 188 modules I'm not so much interested in making music as discovering sound emerging out of randomness. The idea that I could go years patching stuff and not feel like I've duplicated my previous efforts is like the linear trip into reading a wide variety of subjects where you never have to read the same author twice but you keep learning about the infinity of human thought.
-- unity2k
One of the Schippmanns is for sale, but I am really having fun with the three of them at the moment, so I may keep all three. I like the metaphor of the variety of reading, as that is pretty much where I am also.
Utility modules are key. Good thinking.
Try to limit your initial modules to 8hp to maximize number of modules. Look into Doepfer stuff as well. Always great.
My vision of ideal setup is something hybrid with analog+digital+sampler sound sources as a base, with suffisant modulations to let my soundscapes evolve slowly over time and many filters and effects to sculpt the sound and mangle incomming sources.
And since I am not really experienced, I can not fully define a fixed setup.
-- NansheYou are covered in the VCO digital/analogue departments as is.
As for sampling, you basically have a choice of playing back with CV control pre-recorded audio (Radio Music), do live sampling/mangling (Reflex), or use audio for buffer manipulation (Phonogene) or grain synthesis (Sampleslicer, GrandPa). These are just a few that come to mind. They can all be used in more than one way, each having a different focus.
Whatever your sound modules, only flexible CV tools will make them shine. A multiple/quad envelope/LFO (look under Modules for function Generator) module will allow for that, plus attenuation,polarizing, offset, mixing to go with it. Your mh01 will do for a while. You will possibly want a quantizer.
-- wiggler55550
Yes I'm quite satisfied for now but eventually I would like to add the Morphagene & RF Nomad modules for a richer sound palette on the experimental side.
Considering your recommendations, I could replace the A140 and uLfo by Math & Batumi, add a Wogglebug for random/sh and maybe change the mh01 by a Manhattan MVP which brings me multiples.
Does this make sense?
For a noisy sytem, the stuff from Noise Engineering is a good choice, imho.
I really wish the patchbay was at the top of this module. This, unfortunately, considering the value the display appears to have, may be enough to be a dealbreaker for me. :(
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"May the Light in All come to Be."
will there be a v2 without the need for the extra power supply?
My vision of ideal setup is something hybrid with analog+digital+sampler sound sources as a base, with suffisant modulations to let my soundscapes evolve slowly over time and many filters and effects to sculpt the sound and mangle incomming sources.
And since I am not really experienced, I can not fully define a fixed setup.
-- Nanshe
You are covered in the VCO digital/analogue departments as is.
As for sampling, you basically have a choice of playing back with CV control pre-recorded audio (Radio Music), do live sampling/mangling (Reflex), or use audio for buffer manipulation (Phonogene) or grain synthesis (Sampleslicer, GrandPa). These are just a few that come to mind. They can all be used in more than one way, each having a different focus.
Whatever your sound modules, only flexible CV tools will make them shine. A multiple/quad envelope/LFO (look under Modules for function Generator) module will allow for that, plus attenuation,polarizing, offset, mixing to go with it. Your mh01 will do for a while. You will possibly want a quantizer.
Look at (videos of) Polivoks filter clones for candidates.