I was pretty sure you were not. There were no post operative blood trails in the post. LOL
OK, farkas ... I just need to decide which leg to saw off. I don't have a first son.
07 Aug 2021
Currently the Elektrofon Klang is not being produced. I have spoken with Rune Waruus numerous times over the past two years. Klang was a sideline during his normal job up until early 2021. He has been busy staring up a new company with the financial aid from Norway. The primary obstacle facing Rune in trying to bring the Klang back into production is the shortage of electronic components and supply chain necessary to resume production. The pandemic has desperately hurt many companies forcing closures due to shortages. Rune is still focused; however, on other developments for Eurorack user’s in the meantime that do not require the chips required by Klang. I won’t disclose what he is working on; but, it will be a game changer for us enthusiasts.
I will say that if you visit any of the Eurorack & Synth Groups on Facebook and advertise a request as WTB, you may be able to buy one used from someone and I’d be prepared to pay a premium for the module if you are desperate. I recently picked one up third hand at around $105 above the new price in 2019.
Like most people, I prefer to read a user guide or manual on modules before diving down the rabbit hole; but, with the case of the Soundmachines RC1 Radiostar, I cannot find sny documentation; nor, does the IOS app in the Apple App Store have any documentation/help.
I anyone aware of where a user manual is? It isn’t even on the company’s website.
Select and Copy Entire Row
I eventually invested in a Unicorn Account so that I could create/plan single rows (3u/104hp a majority of the time) with the hopes of easily being able to combine all three rows (9u/104hp) after I was do evwith the planning. ModularGrid does not appear to be able to group a set of designated rack rows/skiffs into a single group; however. It also does not seem to be able tonselect an entire group of modules in a row and paste them into a rack in another browser window as opposed to one module at a time.
Originally the row-by-row ssemed easier in looking at layout and power supply requirements; but, now to combine things together it appears I have shot myself in the foot and created a lot of extra work.
Are there any plans to address and add this feature?
Hi Jeff,
Yes, you have to be careful 0f specs listed for the modules you have and what info is pulled up through the ModularGrid entries. Some of the modules have been entered by individuals and shops and there is always that demon called "typo." I generally use the figures as a guideline; but, always double check the module manufacturer's specs to make sure. These values are also steady state values and do not reflect startup loading on the power supplies. They even make adapter modules that delay the start up of modules in order to minimize the extreme loading condions on rack power up.
Power Supplies themselves along with Powered Racks are animals unto themselves and as you pointed out, many are not listed due to variety, the nature of the bus structures, and other factors. I could be wrong; but, I view ModularGrid as a planning and layout tool foremost, with the added features of calculating module loads on the busses as a secondary feature. Like most things, MG is still a growing product/tool backed by a large user community. Things progress slowly and matters are not helped much by the comings and goings of module manufacturers and limited module production runs.
So, when all else fails, I always keep a spreadsheet of everything to make sure I stay under my self-imposed 80% loading rule per rack row. I prefer to use the non-powered racks and supply my own P/S modules and PSUs ... one per rack row using the TipTop Audio uZEUS modules. This gives me an advantage of only turning power on for the rows of modules I might be using as opposed to the whole thing sitting in standby mode doing nothing. The disadvantage would be that my setup is not very portable which does not appeal to most musicians. There again though, this is one of my home hobbies and not a profession that tromps around from one venue to another.
In the end, I use MG more for module and rack layouts more than anything else and the reports as a quick calc on P/S requirements. Then my spreadsheet kicks in ... both the one tracking rack electrical loadings, and the other tracking expenditures, LOL.
Given that you do not know what the Power Supply rail maximum loads would be, if I were in your shoes, i wout rebuild in a new skiff and buyba new Power Supply module so you are aware of the limits. You are much better off knowing your limits than using a module as a fuse.
I still have not been able to fing that info yet. It is obvious since the holes were predrilled tha Analogue Solutions from 2003 to 2007 was intent on the plastic housing to be used only with their modules. In fact they even state in the manual as a rather inaffective warning that they are not responsible for issues caused by modules from other manufacturers. Nice ... Not!
There are some fairly inexpensive skiff solutions out now including TipTop Audio's new skiff line.
I will keep digging though.
Citron,
I have been tryigg to dig up info on the Analogue Solutions AS0084 case and so far, have only found the Concussor User Manual which unfortunately, only gives you the AC power supply requirements (12-15 vac at 500 ma) and does not delineate the actual internal +12 vdc, -12 vdc, +5 vdc supply current output which is really what you need to make sure you stay under the supply maximums. It is not a good idea or statement to say, "The case will generally supply a full set of modules unless there are too many power hungry modules," because you have no idea what your power supply will deliver and therefore cannot ensure you do not exceed the limits of the supply.
So, we need to find out what that limit actually is. Without this, you cannot really know what your limits are on you rack supply either thru Modular Grid or manually thru a spreadsheet or other means.
Go ahead and try your hand on building a virtual rack like yours on MG with the modules you have and go from there while I try to find out the power supply delivery. No wonder Analogue Solutions no longer makes these.
Citron,
I have been tryong to dig up info on the Analogue Solutions AS0084 case and so far, have only found the Concussor User Manual which unfortunately, only gives you the AC power supply requirements (12-15 vac at 500 ma) and does not delineate the actual internal +12 vdc, -12 vdc, +5 vdc supply current output which is really what you need to make sure you stay under the supply maximums. It is not a good idea or statement to say, "The case will generally supply a full set of modules unless there are too many power hungry modules," because you have no idea what your power supply will deliver and therefore cannot ensure you do not exceed the limits of the supply.
So, we need to find out what that limit actually is. Without this, you cannot relly know what your limits are on you rack supply either thru Modular Grid or manually thru a spreadsheet or other means.
Go ahead and try your hand on building a virtual rack like yours on MG with the modules you have and go from there while I try to find out the power supply delivery. No wonder Analogue Solutions no longer makes these.
Hi, Citron
I need to establish a reference point before answering you question(s) any further so that I do not tred into a discussion about stuff you already know and/or have done.
Is the photo you used to start this thread your actual system or is it one that you used ModularGrid to reconstruct?
Do you have all of the modules depicted?
Does your Analogue Solutions rack have an internal supply to supply +12 vdc, -12 vdc, and +5 vdc to the internal rails of the skiff and if so, do you know the specs for the current supplied to each rail?
Is this the first time you have used ModularGrid?
These questions and their answers will be good to start answering the question you have and the big one, "How do I prevent smoking my system?"
I do not believe that your concern should be tied up with the differences between the power supply module you own and it's associated Power Supply Unit (PSU) when it comes to using your existing power supply with UK or USA supplied modules. Electronics work the same way around the world and its physics is not impacted by national borders.
A Module that uses 200ma on a +12VDC rail, 50ma on -12VDC rail and 10ma on a +5VDC rail will do so regardless of where it is used in a rack anyplace in the world. Your concern should be placed in knowing what your Eurorack Power Supply module can safely supply on those rails and whether the modules that you are adding to your system fall within those parameters.
You can use this website to build a model of your Eurorack with the PS and Modules you have and the site will generate the list of all your modules and their individual and combine power requirement in order to stay under what you power supply module can deliver. If you see that your module are taking more than what you are able to power them with, you will then be forced to buy additional power supply modules to allow for expansion.
Don't let the AC voltage and frequency source enter into the equation because all of these modules rely on clean rectified, stepped down DC voltages coming from the Power Supply Module(s).
My 120 VAC 60 Hz source and a 240 VAC 50 Hz source in a different country do not matter because the cards are supplied with +12 VDC, -12 VDC, and +5 VDC only. Your Power Supply Unit (PSU) that you plug into the wall should be the only component different between countries with different AC supplies.
Oh, and do not plead ignorance. The first step in learning is the one you have taken.
Ah. Always a bummer when that happens. Would have been nice to have one. Thanks, Joe.
I see this is a DIY. Any details on construction plans?
