Here's an example of how to handle alternate face plates:
http://cl.ly/image/0z3p0D3g142x/modulargrid_panel_switching_concept.png
I did not have figured out a simple and proper way to assign multiple panelgraphics to one module specification. That's the main problem. Now we have to deal with compromises. I understand both of your arguments. We have this problem with multicolored panels too.
Database capacity is no issue, but redundant search results are.Also, we have to keep severel database entries up to date, which never works in the real world.
The statistic features (Top Module/Popular Module) do not work with splitted module info anymore (see Math).So until I am able to implement a solution with the multiassign of panelgraphics I am taking sides to the "let's keep it unique and clean" fraction.I suggest to make use of the private flag function.
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Not trying to fan any flames here, and writing from a not very technical position ... but, would it be possible to add a toggle button to existing modules which would allow the images to be rotated whichever way a particular user may like?
Well spoken wavicle - I think we should have some kind of guideline for this to set a standard for future reference. I'm honestly rather opposed of adding both directions of possibly inverted modules too, like Planar and Choices, also. Like mentioned before, I think usability comes before personal flair. We only need separate entries when there are actual differences in specifications, not visual style.
Ah I see your argument re: database. My comment was not so much about database size (I'm sure solitud can handle the backend side of things perfectly).
The comment was about usability. From the user point of view there should be no more than one entry per module (there are exceptions, when a module needs 5v and has the option of taking the 5v from the power bus or of converting internally, like 4ms 4PLFO, thus adding two entries because the same module can have different power specs).
From the general user's point of view it's better to have a more streamlined view with the least clutter possible. One puny teleplexer won't make a difference, but it sets a precedent for future entries and Eurorack is growing like crazy.
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MG is supposed to be a modular planner, and when stuff like upside down modules are added, you are basically splitting ratings, specs, descriptions and comments among several modules that are functionally identical.
The point we're trying to make is, that MG is not a painting app. It's not supposed to photorealistically portray your modular system. Buy Photoshop if that's what you want :)
By adding stuff like upside-down modules, you are polluting the DB with entries that add no value, and which typically aren't even updated with specs and a description (just look at this one), making it harder to use MG for actual planning.
The Wiktorion appreciation society as part of their argument states the fact that "the database keeps growing", implying that these 'flipped' modules will take up precious database server space, but anyone capable of logical thought must agree that making all 'flipped' modules private will only add to the problem (if one actually exists). If two users create a 'flipped' module and both are made private, that makes at least one module in the database which is a duplicate, whereas if one user creates a 'flipped' module and allows all other users to use it, then there's no need for anyone else to do so and duplicates can be avoided.
As I argued previously, there are certain modules that lend themselves to being installed either way up, and others that are actually designed that way; we should not make a generalised decision about this.
What do you think, solitud?
I agree there is a shitload of completely uninteresting additions made to this database, but upside down tactile modules should be an exception IMO (say the Planar for instance - I'm sure something like half of the owners use it upside down)
I agree completely with Wiktorion too.
Database keeps growing, and flipped modules should be private. The Euro section is turning into a mess, and will become clunkier to search the more modules are released.
My 2 centavos.
I'm all for open minded-ness, but I feel that it's unnecessary to add extra modules flipped. There's no need to exactly replicate the visual style of one's system. The HP is the same, so I don't see why people who do decide to flip their modules can't do that in private. I have Doepfer modules with Davies knobs. Should I make an extra entry for each module? Granted some modules are designed to be fitted both ways but frankly it's completely unnecessary. The modulargrid service wasn't designed to fit everyone's individual needs - each module should have one page, allowing us to accurately plan and rate our systems. In order to keep this module index clean and manageble, we should remove these entries.
Why?
This module may very well be installed "upside-down", and if one person has it so in their rig, may not others also?
It's already in two public racks, so there are other people out there who already think this is a good idea.
The Intellijel Planar can be installed and used in this manner, as can almost any joystick (X-Y controller), look at the panel design of the "Choices" module by Flight of Harmony, for example; also there are a number of modules by Synthwerks that are designed to be installed either way up.
I'm sure that this particular entry on the ModularGrid database was not created by accident and somebody actually intends to install this module 'arse over end' in their own rig, so let's be a bit more open-minded, eh?
Please watch carefully. I know the Microcompressor already exists, this version is a forthcoming stereo version.
Duplicate. There's already this: http://www.modulargrid.net/e/l-1-l-1-microcompressor
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Yeah! Not just my current rack layout, but loads of gear-lust racks as well.
It would've been better (for me, at least) if you just left 'em as they were.
I'm sure that I'm not the only one with this problem, it's just that I'm the only one who's complained (grumpy old bloke mode).
No matter though - easily fixed!
many of my panels were discontinued i posted that they were being changed 3weeks before making the change
i can not delete panels that are in racks
sp i replaced it with a private panel .. sorry if this affectetd your rack layout
Wot the hell's heppened here?
This used to be a 8HP Blind Panel.
I've used it as such in many of my racks because it looked better on-screen than the Doepfer example.
But now it's a 42HP sequencer-cum-blind-panel and it's also flagged as "private".
Nice one, FSK!
Rec1-B is quite cool, very off-beat and odd, but you can create some rather interesting sequences with it for sure, especially if you beef it up with some of the A4 effects. Looking forward to seeing how it integrates with a bigger system. It might look like a toy, but I believe it could be a pretty powerful module in the right hands. Lo-fi, sure, but very immediate, and the results are often surprisingly good.
I have a real Steiner 24-stage vactrol string filter at the top of my Rack 4, but there's no way to get it on the grid.....or is there?
Sorry, didn't realize it was stored in the Eurorack database.
There's no 19" rack gear database to store it in that I could find.
There's actually more 19" synth gear in my rig I'd like to include, but no provision on MG for hybrid systems. The Mobius just happened to fit in 3U like the Eurorack stuff.
I also wish there was a way to show my rig (4 racks) in a single view. It's all together in my studio.
Setting it to private means only the creator can see it (that's you).
It shouldn't be in the Eurorack database because it's not Eurorack. Do you want to create an entry for all 19" rack gear and pollute this database of Eurorack modules?
Don't worry, Solitud has already set it to private.
DUPLICATE of http://www.modulargrid.net/e/circuit-abbey-mult No point in filing it under Thonk. It's a Circuit Abbey product, sold through the Thonk store.
Original entry has been updated with MW URL where the module announcement was made by Circuit Abbey.
Love the adjustable lenght idea
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I measure 3mA 12V and 3ma -12V for power consumption.
This filter is quite grungy sounding. The Paperiel with LM4250's is much cleaner sounding, so is the Mutable Instruments version (for the Shruthi).
This is labeled video switcher but works great switch audio. Vactrols soften edges when switching inputs. Nicely done module.
Please update power consumtion on the other one to match this.
I have flagged this one as a duplicate because the other entry is older and has way more racks attached.@Erica Synths: this is probably the best solution and you can still edit any data/image on the other module.
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The first one was uploaded by the customer, this is by me, Erica Synths - I'm about to announce about 10 new modules form Erica Synths in couple of months. Can administratr merge these?
i own this module. beautiful sound. similar to 3320 but a tad more acidic. capable of powerful selfoscillation. not as liquid as 8109, but has drier/focused tone, with exponential envelopes make nice percussive almost wooden tones.
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great! thanks so much. ring modulation, here I come!
on a side note, i ended up going through a batch of about 20 diodes to find four that matched very well. This made a huge difference.
@ootini, here's the front panel designer file:http://peff.com/synthesizers/modular/2hp-ring_modulator.fpd.zipand more information about the circuit:http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgsrr.html
Wow, this is awesome. Is there a post on muffwiggler about this ?
looks really nice. would you mind sharing the planel file for front panel express? i'd really appreciate it. this is just the ticket for my final 2hp hole :) oootini at yahoo dot com
no worries if you'd rather not :)
It's aluminum. I had it made by front panel express.The circuit is based on the Ken Stone Real Ring Modulator.
cool panel! how did you do this? is it an alu panel?
Circuit design by Thomas Henry, PCB design and Serge adaption by Matthias Herrmann (fonitronik).
Thanks, I looked at that and I guess I just couldn't believe my own eyes. I guess if those 250mA are the limiting factor here, and especially if you have other modules with higher startup requirements, something like this would be of help: http://www.perfectcircuitaudio.com/electronic/modular/cgs763-power-supply-delay.html
have a look at the Metasonix website. To my amazement, I discovered that "800-850 mA cold startup is required for 3-5 seconds" :-O
finaly something i'd fully like to get. i have been following your work for years. great stuff! i have planned a little expansion/controller box with it: 
when is it gonna be available?
cheers!
