Honestly, I would have left the Rosie (mixing with an effect send for the delay, plus audio outs). Also, whilst the Optomix is great -- I rarely get tired of hearing the STO into an LPG --- the Opto is a combined VCF/VCA.

Unless you are absolutely sold on the UHC and that specific delay -- to return to the first comment, why have you selected these modules in particular? --- I would suggest swapping the delay for something like another disting (which has nice delays) + ModDemix. Also, you just have one voice here, so I'd add another VCO.

So, I'd suggest something like: FH-1, Disting, STO, Dixie, uFold 2, Maths, Optomix, ModDemix, Disting, Rosie.

Thanks for your replies
@wiggler55550 No hands on experience, these are what my online research has led me to. From what I understand, these particular modules are multifaceted in function and could be patched countless ways. Tried to find the modules that i thought would create the widest range of possibilities.

@richc90 Thanks for the input I swapped the Rosie for an Optomix!

Basimilus Iteritas Alter by Noise Engineering is an absolute must for this, plus the Mutant Drums. The main question will be: how will you sequence your drums? If you want to do it without external gear, Surgeon uses either Trigger Riot or Circadian Rhythms, which both demand alot of real estate (28HP and 36HP respectively). The alternative is something like BeatStep Pro.

If you google image search for "Surgeon Modular" you can see his 208HP racks.

VCA?

If HP efficiency was your main concern you could do better than that. But maybe it isn't. What made you choose these modules? Do you have personal experience with them?

Bought an E340 Cloud Generator from @bachelard and everything works great!
No problem shipping from Canada to US. Would recommend to others.

Starting out by trying to squeeze the most functionality & versatility I can into a single 84 HP rack. These are modules I hope to slowly acquire. Any thoughts or input are appreciated.

Shameless self-promotion here, but Surgeon has been a fan of the Mutant Drums for techno percussion. Modular drums may or may not be what you are after, though :)

Had a smooth transaction as buyer from @hadj
Ultra fast dispatching and clear communication.

EDITED Sep 7th 2016, 15:08

Hi everybody.. I'm looking build suggestions for my modular system. I'm looking forward to make techno percussive rhythm sounds and baselines. What would you suggest me to consider? I would like to have Roland system 1m for my core sound source because it gives me all basic modules that I need to make something and also saves the money.
Maximum 84 hp space for suggested modules. Thanks, M.

Quite the challenge to keep up with when in full use. As a matter of fact I'm struggling with the signal flow on my Doepfer 4x4 if not most of the signals are colour coded.

not bad

Had super smooth transactions buying from @nicdro and selling my MakeNoise STO to @kwantor.

....It seems like a more traditional 4 element synth rather than someting built for IDM or more abstract sounding set up. Am I right?
-- skizum

Don't get caught up too much in what others have and use. Unless your thinking and approach is traditional it will not sound traditional. --

What about CV conditioning, routing, mixing? Much muscle but you also need bones.

EDITED Sep 6th 2016, 08:01

First chapter, first attempt, first anything in so called GAS of modulars... This little 60hp will go right under the Mother32's big black ass... I'm open to suggestions if you have something in mind of what to add or change. Thank you.

I got the curtis filter and I also went ahead and got tides. The nano rand or something like it is a definite sometime soon. The waldorf wavetable seems interesting so when its available I might get it. I'll have to look into something to control modulation. From what I see on this site this doesn't look like a lot of the setups I see. Am I right? It seems like a more traditional 4 element synth rather than someting built for IDM or more abstract sounding set up. Am I right?

EDITED Sep 5th 2016, 18:25

Holy S#*t

i count 97 mini pots!!

Sounds boring, but something like Mutable's Shades or Intellijel's TriAtt or ALM's O/A/x2 so you can control the amount of modulation you send to your other modules. Also, a random source would be a great addition: something like the Qu-Bit NanoRand or SSF Analog Ultra Random or MN Wogglebug. You also only have one filter, so another one with a different character to the Moog's would be a natural choice, or maybe an LPG like Optomix or LxD.

I'm sorry if I'm not posting correctly. I'm not use this. This is what I have so far. I'm using a Roland JD XI along with a new Electribe 2 for sequencing and drums. I actually have five tiers since its a DIY case. As you can see its pretty much the basics. Any direction on what to buy next or look at for the future would be very appreciated.

EDITED Sep 5th 2016, 17:55

Totally agree with Fastus, especially that you should do some background research on how elements of a modular system fit together. The kind of sound you describe as aiming for isn't exactly easy to achieve, and you'll in any case need to get to grips with the basics first. You wouldn't go far wrong with something like the Make Noise System Cartesian as a starting point, getting to grips with that (and there is plenty to keep you going) and building from there. You'll then see that whilst the selection of modules you've listed are all great, you really need a host of utilities to unlock their power.

EDITED Sep 4th 2016, 15:13

Would definitely suggest visiting the Muffwiggler site if you haven't already, and individually search for information on each unit before making any purchasing decisions. If possible, there's no replacement for visiting a store that sells modular and getting a feel for each piece. Buying blind just means spending a lot unnecessarily, getting frustrated and having to resell stuff you don't really want.

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106396 // modular synth basics

You might also want to look up some Raul Pena videos on youTube (Raul's World of Synths) to get started:

Good luck on your journey.

EDITED Sep 4th 2016, 02:58

My set from Modular on the Spot PDX is up for listening:

Huge thanks to AstroWarrior for organizing, Control Voltage for providing the mobile power, and Holtech for the PA !

Heres a shot:
www.instagram.com/p/BJdlnHFjmG2/
credits
released September 2, 2016
Recorded live by Kevin Meyer aka AstroWarrior
www.instagram.com/astro.warrior/

Maybe you go to the details page and pm the person who submitted the module?

Planned duophonic synthesizer

Intended configuration (classic subtractive synth architecture):

MIDI-to-CV/gate
2 LFOs
2 VCOs
Noise source
2 mixers
2 ring modulators
2 VCFs
2 VCAs
Dual-channel delay
Output mixer/stereo pan

TBD:

1. I need to fit a second mixer.
2. Evaluate alternatives for each module.
3. The MIDI-to-CV selected here is not duophonic. Need to find one that is (2 sets of CV/gate outputs, with each controlled by a separate MIDI channel).
4. May have to sacrifice the delay module or ring modulators.

EDITED Sep 6th 2016, 17:19

I have no idea what i am doing, but i am trying to achieve an Kangding Ray/Ryoji Ikeda/Alva noto -ish! sound.

If you have 2 mins to give it a look, please tell me what you think.

Thank you.

PS: Noob at Modular stuff but im here to learn.

where does one find the FDP for this scope interface? i'm definitely interested!!

I have updated this synth to be a sort of guitar input unit/fully functional modular synth. Is it able to do a lot of things with this configuration?

incase this helps others i just received this information back form Pittsburgh Modular:

We have always supplied all of our cases(Move, Cell & Structure lines) with 4-40 thread pattern nuts. And, therefore 4-40 x 1/4" screws. If there are different thread pattern nuts in the Cell 90's, then the nuts have been switched by the previous owner.

Here is link to the slinging nuts we use. They are made by Vector Electronics- the same manufacturer of the aluminum rail extrusions. No other sliding nut performs better in than the one designed to do so by Vector.

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vector/NT4-7PA/?qs=%2fha2pyFadugAiOx0w%252btSKBqfQq6c0HQn6Jo9P3ASxUM%3d

very grateful to Pittsburgh for this info, handy to know where to buy these.

cheers,

Luke.

(:->}-

greetings!

i just purchased a Pittsburgh Cell 90 x2 used and the mounting screws i was using from my other Pitts 'Move' case do not seem to fit the little thread nuts.

anyone know if there's different sizes? has anyone else has this problem?

thanks!

Luke.

They don't specify it on their website, it's just "up to more than an hour"

If you need it more specifically, measure it yourself. But you'll need a lot of time for that... ;-)

Here's a link to a Youtube video of this rack in action:

Does anyone know what the LFO periodicity is when set to 'ultra low' mode using the internal jumper?

Thanks for your reply will check those out! Cheers.

I've been doing this only for a couple months. I'm very pleased with what I've chosen and the order I have them in but open to suggestion from veterans. Trying to decide whether it's worth it to plug that last 4 hp gap!

The Torcido is impacting the Hertz Donut and the MI Peaks. The MI Grids is impacting the Peaks and the Synthrotek drum module. I have the Pittsburgh Modular Synth Box and the Clouds combining into one signal and can use the blend knob on the Clouds to control how much of each is bleeding through.

EDITED Aug 29th 2016, 21:41

Hello,

You need :
Power supplie => uZeus
Drum sequencer (3 voices) => Grids
A Mixer => Tiptop Mixz.

Search for this ones in priority, so you can have a fully functionnal mini drum system.
After this, search for some basic synth parts : VCO/VCA/ENV...

Try to stick to cheap modules to begin with (Doepfer is really a good deal...).

Can always swap Rene/Tempi for Ansible/Teletype/ErbeVerb.

Intellijel 4U case? Make Noise Skiff gives 20hp more room for maths or URA/Samara.

With the MN Skiff it could be: Tempi, Rene, Disting, Tides, Terrarium, Optomix, Verb.
Then can always swap Brainseed for Disting, Teletype+Ansible+Samara+URA for Tempi/Rene.

EDITED Sep 12th 2016, 16:59

Was there any movement on this? Did it happen!?

To Consider

Get Chronoblob to swap with LoFi Junkie?

Misc Notes

Could always swap DLD with Erbe Verb.
Could be nice to swap O'Tool+ with Optomix.

• Need more attenuation/VCAs here.
• Mixing, Sampling, are unanswered questions re: Oubliette / Nostalgia for Infinity.
  • Stereomix Toppobrillo still seems an ideal mixer.
  • ER-301 is where I lean sample wise though the 4ms Dual Sampler could be good. Rossum stuff hasn't floated my boat.

Interesting 12Us / Instagram peeps I like

• lightbath_ (aka fourhexagons) - https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/view/29631
• rbeny (aka austinthecairns) - https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/view/60610

EDITED Mar 11th 2017, 02:38

Just had a great transaction with @DohaK - quick responses, shipped quickly, item in great shape, packed perfectly, very helpful. Thanks again!

Hi, I'm Tim from Germany. I produce electronic music on my laptop, but lately I'm into hardware, planning on getting some Eurorack modules asap.

my music is found on:
soundcloud
youtube
iTunes
where I make Prog and Electro House, Dubstep, Trance, Rock...

also, there's my side project, namely "Ad Lodal Ravis"
side-soundcloud
side-youtube
where I'm living out my darker side, doing Minimal, Acid and Progressive Techno FOR FREE

feel free to check out my stuff, maybe leave a like, follow or subscription if you like what you hear...

Right now my setup is as follows:

A MacBook Pro 15" from late 2011 (getting a new computer soon) with a Tascam US-122 MKII USB Interface
an old Tascam Portastudio 488-MKII mixer/taperecorder (used as a mixer) and a second hand Behringer 4-Channel-Mixer
some KORG volcas (beats, bass, keys, sample), KORG monotrons (duo and delay) and an Arturia MicroBrute
and I have some guitars.
I'm using KRK Rokit5 GP2 monitors for mixing and beats mixr headphones for reference.

Just added the inspiring Loquelic Iteritas to the stage rig! such a wonderfully lush & tormented voice!

Hey Franssen,
seems like you're missing a few modules.. An envelope generator solely generates a signal. It can't process audio like an amplifier. To use the doepfer adsr correctly you need an exponential voltage controlled amplifier, or vca for short. The vco's output goes into the vca's input. The envelope's main output 'opens' the vca and makes the audio signal form the vco louder and quiter following the envelope. Secondly you're going to need a voltage controlled filter or lowpass gate. A lowpass gate already has a vca and envelope integrated, but your setup really needs a nice analog filter. Doepfer has loads of great sounding filters, but if you're really into eurorack modular and have some cash to spare, get Intellijel's Polaris VCF. This vcf is a very, very versatile filter with an integrated phaser circuit!
Also, go on the internet and take a very good look at synthesizer signal paths. That is quite fundamental knowledge to even understand a simple modular patch. There is a guy on youtube who can explain all of this, and more, very well and erudite! Here's the link to his tutorial series:

So here's your shopping list: -a voltage controlled amplifier (VCA)
-a voltage controlled filter (VCF)
don't forget some good patch cables!!

I hope this'll help you as an introduction in the very fascinating world of eurorack modular! And as always, keep wiggling!

EDITED Aug 24th 2016, 15:39