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Hi HGSynth, thank you for you reply.
Here is my current rack

And here is what I aim:

Basically, I am a guitar player. I've got also some electronic gear like Analog Rytm mk 2, Sequential Prophet rev. 2, make noise 0 coast. The modular is to complete whole set. My aim is to do some ambient textures, drones, but also I really like to do sequencing staff using rene. What is worth to mention, I am not into techno or some agressive stuffs. I had a pizza oscillator, but for me it was too agressive.
And yes, I was using Maths as filter and Rene as modulator. Pamela is pretty good at modulation too :)

EDITED Nov 4th, 10:37

Not a bad start at all, but a few things to consider:

1. Do you plan on growing the rack / what case is this you're using?
2. How do you use this rack with external gear? I see you have a pedal interface, is this rack more of an effects unit, or is it more of a standalone instrument?
3. Any particular musical goals with this instrument?
4. I love that you've discovered the compare 2 and sequential switch. Those specific utility modules, along with vpme.de's T-43, doepfer's matrix mixer, and the Ornaments & Crime, made a world of difference to my own workflow and understanding of how to build an instrument and manipulate voltages (and therefore, sound).

Hey! A few questions / points to help:

1. Please provide a link to your rack, rather than just the jpg, that way we can explore it more easily.
2. Do you already own the case/modules, or is this all still in the planning phase?
3. What type of sounds/music are you aiming to make (aka, what do you mean by "experiment with textures")?
4. How interactive do you want the rack to be? Do you want it to be more playable and responsive to commands, or more generative and "suggestable," rather than directly controllable?

To your specific question, no, I do not think you have too many modulation sources; on the contrary, I would certainly suggest more. Something like a cv controllable LFO for example (for ever-changing modulation in addition to what Maths and Zadar can do - free them up for different uses). The longer I spend with modular synths, the more I realize that modulators and utilities are really what make the systems interesting. Sure, oscillators and filters and effects are fun, but any synth can do that, you don't need to dig into modular for those features. But if you want to have control over the fiddly cv details, want to be able to set up (and maybe make hands-free) changing parameters over time, or really explore unique methods of sound creation (for example, have you ever tried using the Zadar as an oscilator, or the Rene as a modulator, or the Maths as a filter - or anything really), well that's where modular shines. And for that, you should spend some more time looking at modulators and utilities. In general, I'd rather fewer sounds sources and more utilities/modulators than the other way around. What you have is a good start, but I'd think about how much space you're dedicating to effects and whether that will get you the synthesizer experience you're looking for.

You should update with a link and let us know how much of your rack is planned vs. already owned, and we can suggest further. Good luck with your sounds explorations!

Dont buy , the model cv input is unusable , this is where they seriously cut corners , also when i listen to my friend s plaits , it sounds 100times better , idk if it s in my head tho

I took the plunge! I filled my old dfam boat with the bitbox micro 18hp, erica synths LXR 28hp, erica synths joystick 12 hp and the endorphin.es 2hp mult power suppply. All Black Faces! It should compliment the grandmother, dfam, mavis, and BSP nicely. Thanks for all of the suggestions! Cheers!

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2393267.jpg

Hi there. Here is my rack. Currently I am thinking if this kind of setup makes a sense? I mean I;ve got Pamela and Maths, and I am torn between Batumi and Zadar. I'd like to experiment with textures, that's why I'd stick more with Zadar, but please feel free to give you feedback.
Btw, what do you think about this rack overall?
Thanks!

Bug Fix: the Median Price function now calculates the median and not some fantasy values.

*dpo: LFO 선택

*pamela's Pro
-1out: /4, random squre, level 50%, probability 80%, cross op_mix, cross src_self, flex op_human, flex amt_25%, quantizeharm minor,
-3out: /16, 1square, width 50%, level 100%, probability 100%,

*디테일 조정은 math, quard vca, dual adsr

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Patch notes in the youtube link

a bigger case to have room for expansion

hi, all,

Looking for general feedback here. What am i'm lacking? What would you change? I'm still relatively new to modular. More of a reformed guitarist/drummer that's just been experimenting with synths for the last two years.

A couple of notes:
Genre wise I like generative ambient, noise, and experimental.
External Gear I have a Syntakt to cover drums, and the makenoise 0-ctrl and Korg SQ-1.
Modules I could part with: Data Bender, one of the delays (nautilus or mimeophon), Tides
Things I'm considering: More envelopes? another interesting osc? Or deeper logic functions?
Additional note: Still developing my understanding of deeper functions ("deeper" from a "beginner's" perspective). For instance, I just recently got a seq switch and the Joranaloge Compare 2--both of which have been blowing my mind in the possibilities.

Thanks!

EDITED Nov 1st, 14:58

Hey! I'm building my first rack. I really need some help. I have an extra 60hp case sitting around that I'm using for a Maths, Bitbox micro, Disting mk4 and something else. I don't know yet. I need a power source but I'm not sure what to get. I'm completely new to this. I'm working with a moog grandmother, dfam, mavis and a bsp. Any help or suggestions of better modules to get for that setup would be highly appreciated.
-- JayStax

i think you will be better served in either the modular Reddit or modwiggler beginner forums. I'm still very much figuring things out myself and not the best resource.

your answer will change depending on what kind of music you enjoy making and how you like making it (like are you a keyboardist or more of a sequencer programmer.)

I'm building a big mess of jack of all trades rack since i really like everything from techno to ambient and really anything with a pronounced symth soundscape.

If you're just looking for power, something like the TipTop uZeus or the endorphines 2hp power are great for small cases. for the modules you listed, they draw a little over 500mA on the +12v rail and less than 100mA on the -12v rail. With the right wall wart or power brick, uZeus will pump out 2 amps +12v and 500mA -12v, and the 2hp Power produces 1amp +12v and 700mA -12v. Either would give you headroom to add one or two more modules. Cheers!

ahhh great! Pam's and Steppy work wonderfully. And yeah, at minimum you want one envelope per sound you're making. Another pair of ADSRs and/or Scenes will let you be a lot more flexible. One other fun trick for hats is to set the waveform of one channel on Pam's to be a short decay envelope and have it at x2 or x4 tempo. That frees one of your actual envelopes for other duties. Plus you can do some euclidean things or random skips. Good times!

After Later Audio Scenes (stage clone) looks great, thanks for the tip. I'll do that instead of 2 dual ADSR. Will also check Sound on Sound series. Thanks again for taking the time.

Hey! I'm building my first rack. I really need some help. I have an extra 60hp case sitting around that I'm using for a Maths, Bitbox micro, Disting mk4 and something else. I don't know yet. I need a power source but I'm not sure what to get. I'm completely new to this. I'm working with a moog grandmother, dfam, mavis and a bsp. Any help or suggestions of better modules to get for that setup would be highly appreciated.

EDITED Oct 30th, 22:41

Hey thanks lot for answering!

Sorry, my post lacked context.
I do have Pam's and Steppy for sequencing duties. I was really wondering about the patching techniques you would use to make the most out of these 5 modules as a drum unit.

So if I understand well, I could use one Brooks, one ADSR channel and one VCA channel to implement a kick.

And 2 ADSR channels, one Brooks, noise and 2 VCA channels to implement a snare.

Means I need more ADSR!

So let's say I add a second Dual ADSR to have 4 different envelopes.

Could I then leverage the last Cloaks VCA, the remaining envelope and the noise to add Hats to the mix?

Howdy! What are you using to trigger sounds? Are you hoping to just record one-shot samples into a DAW or do you want to treat your modular rack like a designated drum machine? The thing you can do with just what you have here is run the clock output from the noise/random module into the trigger in on one of the ADSRs. Run white noise out from the noise/random into one of the VCAs and the ADSR out to control the VCA. Keep the Attack, Decay, and Sustain near zero and play around with the release. Turn the clock speed up to how fast you'd want hi-hats to go and you've got that part of the kit going! For bonus, run the S&H out into the CVT input on the ADSR to get some varying length releases and humanize it a bit.

Without a trigger sequencer or at least a clock divider, there's not a whole lot more you could add to the kit as is. For a kick sound, tune one of the Brooks low and run it into a VCA. Have the ADSR go to both control the VCA and have it hit the pitch of Brooks to taste. Other option would be to put the other Brooks into another VCA and patch that VCA output into the FM in on the first Brooks, and use the ADSR out to control the 2nd VCA (and thus the depth of FM from one Brooks into the other).

Similar idea for a snare sound, except combine one Brooks and maybe the colored noise output in two channels of the Cloaks, controlled by the two ADSRs triggered at the same time, but playing with the release times to see what sounds come out of it.

As for modules I'd add, Pam's is great as a master clock and you can program it like a drum sequencer with a little work. A clone of Mutable Instruments Grids is perfect for a 3 piece drum machine, although no matter what you'll want at least one more envelope. For that, I think a clone of Mutable Instruments Stages is perfect for percussive things. Most percussion you really only need a Decay envelope, and Stages can quickly be 6 of those, but you can also set it up to be a mix of decay envelopes, clocks, clock dividers, S&H, or a bunch of other things (particularly with the Quiemem firmware).

Also highly recommend the Sound on Sound Synth Secrets series of articles for in-depth looks at creating a lot of different sounds from base synth components. Cheers friend!

The images doesn't seem to show the last version of the rack. There are in fact 2 brooks.

Hello all,
I tend to use dedicated percussion modules for drum duties.
Now, I would like to patch my drum sounds out of base components, in order to have more flexibility/sound variety/control.

What could I make out of these 5 modules?

Based on what I read, I could make a decent Kick, snare and hats.

How would you patch a 3 part drum kit with these modules? Or even a 4 part drum kit?

Let me know your thoughts, different choices of modules, additions etc.

Thanks.

A General MIDI synth, complete with full sound banks. Excellent quality samples!
It’s GM, so pretty generic and not tweakable in this unit, so good for backgrounds, pads, and percussion, don’t know if you’ll want to solo any of these.
Can be triggered by CV gate, or by MIDI input, which gives you up to 64 voices of polyphony, quite a large selection in a small package. By using the HOLD function you can get poly sounds with CV, or just trigger them with MIDI.

A simple build, would be a great first kit to give you a solid foundation of sounds for your rig.
Build

Nice jam, nice collab! Some parts are really exciting. Thanks for sharing!

What do you think of this synthesizer jam? We recorded this yesterday.

EDITED Oct 27th, 07:46

Patchnotes in the youtube Link

Smooth. What's your setup?

Try not to judge me harshly for the Behrenger modules, this is, a replacement for my other rack from 6 years ago was recently stolen during moving, and I simply dont have the money to rebuy those modules for now.
I seem to have forgotten how to modulate. Please tell me where to place the modules I have here, (likely to keep the Utility modules where they are for the layout of my space and wiring).
Also any starter patching ideas would be great.

https://modulargrid.net/e/steady-state-fate-autodub

hilarious

Warning to anyone who builds their own modules for eurorack.
I oredered parts from a company called MODTEK.UK aka (Tangle of Tings)
They promote themselve as caring about fellow enthusiasts.
They took my money for order said they would post it but never sent items
They will not respond to any emails at all at their support email.
so be cautious when buying from companies, check first if they are reputable traders.
Buyer beware

Hi, isn't that exactly what the Molten Bypass (Befaco/Molten Modular) does? Or did I misunderstand? Or are you talking more complex?
-- Rolling_Rat

Ah yes, thank you! This is exactly the kind of thing I am looking for. I clearly need to work on my Googling skills.

I wonder if there are any other alternatives worth considering too?

Looks good, but shouldn't the outputs be labelled "OUT", rather than "CUT"?

Any other views from here on this module?
Did it live up to expectations?

Ive been looking at it & considering getting one for a while but a little on the fence due to size & cost.

Good experience selling a pedal to @gabrielestera, thank you!

Hi, isn't that exactly what the Molten Bypass (Befaco/Molten Modular) does? Or did I misunderstand? Or are you talking more complex?

I'm currently using a Behringer 173 module as what I would call a "gated effects send", which is working fine but it uses a lot of patch cables and requires using a mixer module for each audio signal. The basic idea: I have an incoming audio signal and gate. When the gate is low the original audio signal is returned, but when the gate is high the audio goes through some processing.

Rack here:

I'm currently using this with a sequencer to send a drum gate, and that causes the kick and bass to be passed through HPFs. I make a lot of trance so this is a useful way of transitioning between sections. But there are other uses too, such as using big delays to emphasis one or two notes in a sequence without muddying everything.

My ideal module would be something simpler that uses fewer patch cables and less space. It might also be nice to be able to blend between the signals instead of using the gate to switch between wet/dry. I found a DIY option, but I'm hoping there are other ready made alternatives.

Hey,
Here is an update.

I ended up with a differeng setup:

With 2 more modules than the 12 expected on the 62hp Palette case. Works fine!

It's a fun little skiff. Not much variation on the sounds, but Neo-Trinity allows for on-the-fly cv recording to change melodies, steppy is quite playable, I can alter the synths´ decay with Total Recall and note triggers with Running Order, Electus is quite fun, I even have some ducking with Tymp...not too bad for such a small portable case.

Great module! It would also benefit from having more choices for CV assignment destinations, such as root note. I suppose it should be possible to accomplish with a firmware update, Hoping for this!

Hello.Could there be some kind of "limit" on market updates? There are users who "update" their products several times a day, so the same offers always appear in first position...

I also own a victor module. the poster above is correct.
Gate input is for vector envelope which mixes the 4 waveforms. and I think continuous means it loops the envelope

if you were to set say Oscillator 4 to silence and make that the end of the vector envelope it will do what you're asking. likewise you can simulate a filter envelope by using a sine oscillator as the end point.

But I think routing back into the GM external input (assuming it has one) would be the best option for what you're trying to do

cool beans! My first modular was Doepfer and still have it. So great, simple and powerful.

Please add "Phase Engineering"

I have created their first module as OTHER, here:

https://modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-phase-engineering-leq-5

I am working on socials and digital presence for the brand.

https://steveturner.com.au/news/blog/7477999/introducing-the-phase-engineering-leq-5-eurorack-module

The product is available and selling already. It is a real thing.

Steve.

Rack showing the first Eurorack module released by each manufacturer between 1995 and 2009:

1995, Doepfer, A-100 System
1998, Analogue Systems, RS Integrator
2004, Voxglitch, CV Pattern Generator
2005, Plan B, Model 15 VCO
2005, Livewire, Frequensteiner
2006, Cwejman, VM-1
2007, The Harvestman, Malgorithm
2008, Make Noise, Moddemod
2008, Tiptop Audio, Z5000
2008, Toppobrillo, Triple Wave Folder
2008, Bubblesound, SEM20 VSF
2009, Metasonix, R-52
2009, WMD, Geiger Counter
2009, Hinton Instruments, Switchmix (42hp, not shown)
2009, Synthesis Technology, E-340
2009, Synthwerks, FSR-1

Source: Modwiggler thread "Timeline History of Eurorack?" by bouzoukijoe1
https://modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68605

Other noteworthy dates:

2001 First Superbooth at Musikmesse
2006 First post on Muffwiggler
2012 Modulargrid announced
2012 First Knobcon
2013 First DivKid video
2014 I dream of wires
2015 Mother 32
2016 First standalone Superbooth in Berlin
2021 10,000 3U modules on Modulargrid

For corrections, please leave a comment!

Howdy!

This is a pretty open ended request, so we might need a bit more detail to be able to give you adequate advice. I know it's not specifically Eurorack, but I would really recommend the Behringer 2500 clone as a very reasonably priced all-in-one extremely versatile option. You can also mount that in a standard rack and add a row or two of 84hp rails to expand with things you think you're missing. For drone/ambient I'd recommend some more sources of modulation and maybe some interesting delays/reverbs (if you're not already running it through pedals). Maths is a great addition to the 2600 for envelopes and more complex modulation (also highly recommend the illustrated supplement for Maths, you'll learn A TON about voltage and how to push it around). Updated clones of Clouds (like the Monsoon) are pretty "classic" eurorack nowadays too. Sort of an instant ambient playhouse.

This might just be my personal opinion, but I don't think synthwave type sounds are really where modular shines. When I think of synthwave I think of more typical polysynth options, but the beauty of modular is you can always run a keyboard synth alongside it! (or even INTO it!)

Any more detail on things that are drawing you into modular or sounds that have been inspiring you would be greatly helpful to give you more specific direction.

Intended Case: https://colemans.com/polish-military-ammunition-box

Hi.
I'm trying to compile my first rack and after a month of research I think I'm back to square one.
First I was looking into Behringer system 100 and 2500 but realizing system 100 is very basic and 2500 ocupies too much space for what it offers I've tried some different configurations and still can't figure out a good set.
I have external sequencer and keyboard with CV/gate out so I don't need any sequencers.
What I'm after is something that I can use for drone/ambient and 80's electronic/synthwave.
Also my budget is 2000€.
Any help would be appreciated.

hello is this able to route a gate and 1v/oct signal in dual mono mode precisely?

update:
figured that with 4ms interface I can replace anything that would be in it's rackspace. So I went overboard, removed the sampler (as I can build that in VCV) and put in the interface. Also changed MIDI interface to USB based with more sockets to be able to control more than just 2x trigger/CV. Also replaced the DJ filter with TTA's forbidden planet as I heard good things about it and the sound is nice.

As a bonus it's somewhat cheaper and less power hungry than what I had in those places.

EDITED Oct 21st, 11:53