Can somebody tell me a difference between ES-8 and FH-2?
I need the module to send midi to cv from ableton cv-tools to my Stillson Hammer mk2. The outputs could be set to be a note, gate or modulation source.
It doesn't necessary need to have a lot of outputs because i plan to use cv multiplier.
So i can't completely decide which module I need for my purposes. Maybe you could help with your opinion.)
Hi Danjas,
Regarding point 1, not sure but maybe the ACL Sinfonion can do this, you might want to check that module out. The con is the price.
About point 2 not too sure what you want, do you mean something like a random generator or something like that? If yes, there are several random generator modules, just go in this forum at modules and look there for what you might need.
Kind regards, Garfield Modular.
-- GarfieldModular
Thanks! Regarding point one i found Arpitech - if i understand right it could do some things that i need.
About point 2 - i mean not just a simple random generator, but a module that could generate another sound from the input audio, maybe morphagene?
Hi.
I need a module that could change the incoming cv sequence. For example, i have the sequencer playing some notes, and i want to play with this sequence - change this notes to a different order, to the another speed or another speed between each note.
So maybe does such module exist?
And another one i need to generate bleeps and glitches from the incoming signal. From example, i have a patch of pad and i want some module to generate bleeps, glitches, some effects based on that incoming pad.
Can you guess any eurorack module for this purposes?
Thanks!
The Mimetic has a reset input called "origin" that takes the sequencer back to the upper left corner (if you're following the lights). So you'll need another source that is sending out a gate/trigger after five beats. There are a few ways to accomplish this. Temps Utile, Pamela's New Workout, Befaco Muxlicer, a MIDI track in your sequencer dedicated to one gate output of the Mutant Brain.
The Basilimus Alter would make a better module for kick drums and simple snares than the Loquelic. It can do both with the right modulation at the right time (those non-sexy modules Lugia mentioned).
If the modular that your building doesn't have LFOs, envelopes, sample and hold, quantizers, attenuators, etc. then you have a really expensive synth that isn't even capable of doing what a semi-modular (like a $300 Neutron) can do.
Noise Engineering offers a lot of its hardware offerings as virtual plug-ins. You'd save a bunch of money and have a much more capable system keeping it all software (even if you have to buy Reason for Rack Extensions).
You can buy this rig but the amount of satisfaction you'll receive from it... not as much as you'd hope for the price.
-- Ronin1973
Thanks! So you'd recommend me not to go modular, but better buy something semi-modular like Neutron or Mother-32 or even stay virtual with my purposes?
Or i can still buy a rig, but expand it with the modules that would make the system more capable (i don't have a clue what are the attentuators for - have never used the one).
Thanks to all of you with the answers. Maybe i didn't explain quite well my purposes.
I've been making music for about 15 years, i already have Vermona Lancet, Elektron Analog Rytm, Moog Sub37, Roland Ju-06.
So now i need something to make sequences, industrial effects and unique drones.
So i thought that Manis, Loquelic Iteritas could make percussive and dirty percussive synths sequenced on Mimetic Digitalis (i am not sure yet which one is better for making a 5-8 step/percussive melodic sequences - this one or Pico SEQ from Erica - i need the one like M185) .
Black Dual EG/LFO - will modulate the envelope for them and also add an LFO for VCO2 by Erica, which i need to make more usual waves and replace my Vermona.
Teri Ruina and Viola are for adding distortion and interesting filter resonances because i heard they have different character.
Clep Diaz - is for making the LFO wave more rhythmic.
I don't need nothing more for now, so i replaced quad VCO with the Fusion Dual VCO.
I am not interested in sexiness of the modules at all))) - that is why i asked for help, because my investigation of which modules are the best and checking the demos of their sound on youtube, have brought me here.
I absolutely don't copy the persons i mentioned - i just thought it would be more convenient to tell which sound i am working on by telling that names.
The price of the modular is important factor - that's why i plan to build it little by little.
Part of the problem is that you mention you want this for "techno production", but not which aspect of that, of which there are many. Is this for percussives? Bass? Leads and pads? All of it? If the latter, you're going to have quite a time of fitting something that versatile in that small a cab. NEVER start with a small cab like this...ALWAYS go with a cab that you think is too large. Invariably, you'll find that your "too large" cab is actually just fine or, if the goal is to create a unitized production device, it's STILL too small.
Second: "important" modules don't make a synthesizer work, if by "important" you actually mean "sexy". This is something I go over quite a bit on here. The ACTUAL things that make a synth a synth are the modules that seem UNimportant...VCAs, mixers, attenuation/inversion, and the like. Sure, it would be awesome if we could fill our cabs with nothing but edgy graphics, a bazillion blinkenlichts und twistenknobs, devices of arcane mystery and all of the rest of that marketing bullshit. But the truth is that you can spendspendspend on those sorts of modules and wind up with something utterly nonfunctional by neglecting the sleepy-looking modules that do all the scutwork.
Third: if the idea is to go from and to Ableton, you've got the wrong interface altogether. See the ES-8 (and expanders) from Expert Sleepers instead. These allow direct control via Ableton's internal CV tools and/or Silent Way or Volta, plus they have four return lines for audio, various timing signals to lock Ableton to the synth's clock, cues from your CV/gate/trig environment that can affect Live's operation, and so on. MIDI interfaces are all well and good, but there's other...and in this case, better...ways to do this.
Lastly, cost-effectiveness and function density are something any modular builder/user has to address. You need to define your necessary functions first (NOT the modules) and then sort out how you can make those happen in terms of modules and module combinations. That last bit is important, because a major aspect of modular synthesis comes from how the modules in your build work with each other, and not merely that you have X, Y, and Z modules. Plus, insisting on X, Y and Z modules before figuring out what they need to "play nicely together" can lead to some nasty cost and space surprises when you start factoring those actually-necessary modules into the mix.
I'd suggest tearing up the above and then going back and doing some basic research. What do the artists you mention use (that you know of)? How are they using those devices? How would you do that? Do you know your music well enough to understand how you would do that? Also, go and study some classic prebuilt synths and see how they generate the sounds they're known for, how their workflows optimize that process, and so forth. Plunging into this without the aid of extensive research will...well, just let us know when you put your money pit on Reverb, because that'll be where it winds up when you get frustrated at this little box that costs several grand but which can't accomplish jack-shit. Seriously.
-- Lugia
Hey, thanks too much for your answer.
I need the modular system first of all for leads, effects, drone sounds and sequences.
I've already made the social research what the artists i mention use and i made the rack i posted here based on the information.
But the problem is that their racks are way too expensive form me to start, so i just want something to start from, because i don't have that amount of money in one moment.
And i know the way the most synths create the sound, but the modular world seems for me a little different.
And i am not sure if the Ableton sequencing is the best, i just want to start from something to practice and make my own mistakes)
I plan to build a modular system for techno production and sync and output to Ableton. The type of sound that i want to reach is industrial like - gritty, raw, crispy and warm like Rebekah, I Hate Models or Regal.
So i need the advice with the rack i've build here - maybe something is missing or i'd better change or add some more important modules.
Now i plan to buy a few most important and irreplaceable modules and then improve it.
