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Hi Funbun,

Nice video! Around 2:30 when I saw those rocks on the other side of the river, I suddenly went back in time, on Mars when there was still water running, beautiful! I also like the subtle sounds of your AE modular system, goes well with the video.

Nice flowers and nature impressions by the way, from your own garden or from the area of the river you live nearby?

Thank you very much for sharing and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi, same problem here, 4 row limit on any device/computer... :(
-- Oracio Hi, this is easily solved if you pay to upgrade your account to UNICORN level! ;-) See this link:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/pro_index

I built in the kits from Modularsynthlab. I have 6 kits with 12 busboards. Works great.

Hi, same problem here, 4 row limit on any device/computer... :(

How? thanks.

Same here, 4 row limit

The Intellijel Multi-FX is cool, but why not something more modulateable?

Sometimes when clicking "sketch a patch" here at MG, the modules are moved and/or swapped back into an older version of the rack plan in use. This has annoyed me for years. My way around it has been to make a duplicate of the rack and creating the patch from this new rack plan.
Is there anything I have missed here?
If not, please see if there is anything to do about it :|

EDITED May 15th 2020, 09:21

Much thanks!

Just ordered a 104. It's your fault!

Hi Wishbonebrewery,

Oh yeah! :-) Both videos are nice and fun to watch but totally different approach, had seen indeed before from both persons other demos. Still difficult too choose, but perhaps I might choose in this case the user interface over the CV possibility; not sure yet though.

Thanks for sharing and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Klciuum,

Most of us write English here, I don't really understand French, sorry about that. Looks like you might not had this wanted to post it here? ;-) The section here (Forum --> Racks) is visible for everyone :-)

Little remark on your rack here, looks nice but please look into more classic/simple modules as well. Sinfonion is definitely a nice module, I got one and love to use it but keep in mind that's meant for large environments, meaning you need to provide it with lots of input (for this beast you just can't have enough VCOs, filters, LFOs, EGs and VCAs), so it can produce even more output. But... it's a fantastic module!

Similar comment for the Rainmaker, I don't have it but I am quite sure it's lovely to use it, but for starters I do think it's A) too large --> sucks up a lot of your available HP-space and B) it might be a bit too complex (like the Sinfonion) to start with.

Good luck with your modular planning and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Nashtyboi,

Fair enough, then just get an audio output module, Beface Out v3 is quite nice; it has headphones output too, so you can ditch that headphones module then ;-)

Kind regards, Garfield.

Trogotronic has plenty of options.

EDITED May 15th 2020, 13:03

Thank you @Kel_
Amazing humbling words.

As you said, in the end emotions were high - but nothing bad happened (in the end) and it is not fair to any of us - being in no way criminal - to be the main actors on this forum since 2 weeks.

People looking for our user names will still read this years from now. And what for?

We are all humans. I love this community and had great experiences here.
I am ready to forget and forgive @breakline & @sdelimar for some overreactions, some mistakes that were made if they can do the same.

I am even ready to delete every post I made here if they are too - hell I never wanted to answer here in the first place and really tried to not let my temper take over. But if it all is how it is then I guess it is how it is. I will try to become a better human - as always.

Now lets do some music! (or whatever they call this modular noise :D )

EDITED May 20th 2020, 18:07

Making your own can end up being quite expensive - but it is a good feeling when it is finally realised!

I use 4MS Row Power and busboards - inexpensive - trivially easy to install - zero problems - I have 4 of them.

There are definitely 'better' power supplies out there and you can easily spend a lot more, but these have served me well for several years now, well since they were released, whenever that was :)

Really nice trade with @vlk

In these times of no cash it was nice to be able to trade a module with vlk, easy, respectful, could not ask for a better experience :))))

Also a really nice way to have the new module excitement without parting with any cash - brilliant!!

Acrylique case (126 HP / 6U):
1x fond acrylique: 661 x 279 mm x 8 mm : 28.00
2x frontaux acryliques: 661 x 150 mm x 8 mm : 30.00
4x latéraux acryliques: 263 x 70 mm x 8 mm : 12.00
1x Colle acrylique : 7.00
1x Gants latex noir: 17.00
1x Lunette de protection: 7.00
Prix : 101.00

Chassis:
2x paire de rails Tiptop Audio Z-Rail 126 HP : 156.00
2x paire de brackets Tiptop Audio Brackets : 18.00
Paquet de vis M4 : 5.00
Prix : 179.00

Alimentation:
1x Eurorack Power Kit : 76.00
1x Power cables : 19.00
2x Flat crimped terminal : 5.00
1x AC Power cable : 10.00
2x Plastic Spacer : 6.00
2x Anti Rack rash screw : 13.00
Prix : 129.00

Total Prix pour la box montée : 409.00
Total Prix des modules : 5359.00

1x 16 patch 30cm transparent : 49.00
1x 16 patch 50cm transparent : 56.00
1x 16 patch 80cm transparent : 49.00

Total Prix pour les patch : 154.00

Total final : 6107.00

Hi!
I have a beautiful vintage briefcase that I want to convert to a microrack. The case has internal dimensions 205mmX163mm about 40HP 3U (with a surplus of 29.5 mm so nothing 1U)

Inside I think to put (things I have)

• uOC (I mostly need it as a sequencer (8HP)
• Gamma Ray Oscillator (8HP)
• 1 "X" module that I am developing (6HP)
• 1 Disting4 for some effects (4HP)
• 1 Erica Pico EG (3HP)
• 1 Startup module (headphones / mixer / out) (4HP)

so far 33HP

there are 7HP left (I can free up space by removing some modules or buying 2hp / pico modules)
In addition, at the top I can put some DIY utilities on a non standard panel.

I need also a proper power.

I need it mainly to make some demo videos (of my modules) and workshops.

There are no particular musical 'tastes' (but i'm fine with ambient/droning slow rhythmic) or east/west coast.
Preferable not expensive.
I accept suggestions on which modules to add (DIY very appreciated), which DIY utilities I can build (better if it exists in kit) and which power supply to use.

Thanks!

I prefer the bigger knobs too, I have lots of 2hp modular gear and the little micro knobs are OK to a point.....!
There is a Robin Vincent Youtube vid about the 104, he loves it....

Then the previous vid about the 103 from Divkid sold it to me anyway!

Are there any similar modules using NOS chips? I'm pretty tired of clones and "almost there" and want the real things to be honest. Like an actual SSM2044 for Eurorack. Or a BA662A in Eurorack format. I have had pretty great results with the MUM-M8 which is based on the S950 style AKAI filters too.

AMsynths has a lot of stuff with NOS ICs, including BA662, BA6110, SSM2044. I dont think MUM M8 actually uses any NOS chips, it sounds unique cuz it uses a switched-capacitor filter IC.

Don't know why 20-30 year old chips sound better than whatever current tech can put out to be honest. I quiet never heard anything like a real IR3109 with todays tech. Or vintage Moog.

The difference is literally the parts aging and going off-spec, the method of production for modern synths and ICs isn't all that different to what it was 30 years ago, at least not in a way that would affect the sound. Of course some digital stuff sounds great cuz it's 12 or 8 bit but it's easy to replicate that nowadays. in 30 years all the modern synths will have a different sound too

EDITED May 14th 2020, 08:05

Well, looking at the outstanding cases from various places I love them all but...feh.
I can craft my own box and it might not be the perfect box but it will be /my/ box!
That said, we get on to power supplies.
What are the good ones? Best cost/benefit stuff? What did you use and do you like it?

Looking at the module you suggested and definitely looks good, but would I actually need this line in? I have Ears to process any external sounds so I figured I wouldn't need it

Alright thanks so much for the reply!

This thing is amazing. Of course, 99% of it is the IR3109 chip itself. A real classic sound. Behringer clones are nowhere even close to the feel of this sadly.

Are there any similar modules using NOS chips? I'm pretty tired of clones and "almost there" and want the real things to be honest. Like an actual SSM2044 for Eurorack. Or a BA662A in Eurorack format. I have had pretty great results with the MUM-M8 which is based on the S950 style AKAI filters too.

Don't know why 20-30 year old chips sound better than whatever current tech can put out to be honest. I quiet never heard anything like a real IR3109 with todays tech. Or vintage Moog.

Hi Wishbonebrewery,

Hmm... yes... good point :-) I also like to have some CV control. So from a CV control point of view the 104 is more attractive. The 103 is still attractive for me because of the user interface, the bigger knobs and the layout of this module seems to be better to me. Nicer to use I think but that CV thingy... 104... hmm... yes... you make me hesitating now :-)

Please share your experience with the 104 once you got it and have it tried out for a while, I am very curious!

Thank you and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Nashtyboi,

Welcome to ModularGrid :-)

Consider the 1U - Audio I/O module from Intellijel, that provides you proper audio input and output possibilities, then you don't have any worries there. The output you can then take to your mixer or directly to your audio interface (to DAW). If you want to use monitors/speakers (and not only headphones) then take a (small) mixer, you can then take the main output of your mixer to your monitors and one of the sub-outputs to the DAW.

For building a new rack (assuming you have no external synth gear already) please keep in mind a minimum classic setup of something like this: 2 VCOs, optional a ring mod, 2 filters, 2 EGs, 2 VCAs (1 lin + 1 exp) and don't forget to add at least one better two LFOs. For more details you also can have a look at a post between Metal_Serra and myself in the post called "First modular rack build" also here in "Racks"-forum where I go into more details, this is for most of the parts applicable here too :-)

Good luck with the planning and kind regards, Garfield Modular.

Thanks for the recommendation of Kinks,this defo seems that it could be of good use.

Thanks! Your words mean more to me than you'd ever imagine.

Moreover, I think we need a system to discourage retaliatory rating, although I recognise that that will involve more work for the site managers.
-- phinland

It's also not easy to settle on a fair system. Every automatized system will have its flaws, and they would inevitably get exploited by some, and/or favor one party over the other. In the end, sites relying heavily on ratings (eBay, etc.) all offer the possibility to appeal to Human arbitration, which is something modulargrid's staff might not want to spend time on - and I may not want to pay for their extra work.

Besides all that, I just bought @klodifokan 's Nutella Tsunami and it's great.
-- fredeke

Thank you Fred ;)

Thanks both I appreciate the replies! I love the three module challenge videos and this youtube clip absolutely tells me I can go with a palette case

I also have a 0-Coast and ton of pedals... so I am not worried and just having the palette
-- Spencerdeathwaltz

(1) you are absolutely right you can make fine music with just a pallete.
(2) ricky's video's are great and most people on this forum probably watch his video's
(3) the beauty of modular is that there is no right and there is no wrong. 3 moduless. 62 HP. 15 modules. 316HP case. it doesn't matter. todd barton could probably make a vca sound like radiohead.
(4) if you watch the most recent ricky video he even talks about "going back" to a bigger case. what the other posters were tryin to say - pretty clearly too - is that cases like the pallette & the 4ms pods are great lil additional ligaments, if you will, to existing 'bigger' cases. can they be there own system? absolutely they can be. again no right no wrong. 1 modules or 304 HP. don't matter. but even if you look at the evolution of ricky's small case video's he has new modules in there all the time. where do those other modules go? in their box? how do you learn them then? he's got a bigger case he has them all in...for sure. and then the small case becomes a lil extra hand or if he wants to do his small lil jams with his additional synths then he can. the argument could then be made that if he had one 6u or 7u 84 HP case he could just have the one system..again no right or wrong. but something to consider.

There are two schools of thought as far as I am aware:

1) get multiples of the same thing - so you can learn one thing inside out and use it multiple times - very cool approach - it works!

2) get different flavours of essentially the same thing, so 1 Maths and 1 Falistri or some other variant - also very cool and works well!

I have a mix of both approaches, so 2 Stages makes loads of sense because they can be chained to increase the functionality, but my other function generators are all different, Terminal, Maths, Double Andore (mkI and mkII), Tides, Zadar - each having it's own special flavour and tricks!

Ultimately I think it comes down to what you want to achieve :)

Sorry @Spencerdeathwaltz for hijacking your Thread

@GarfieldModular

The 4ms WAV Recorder really works great for me. First I wanted to buy a simple Focusrite Scarlet Interface. But I hate using a Computer in my Workflow. Even if it's just for Recording. Then someone hinted me the WAV Recorder.

If you don't want to do Multitrack Recording I can really recommend the WAV Recorder. It's so simple to use.

Yeah, Defenitely check out the Arbhar if you like Granular Stuff.

I think I only scratched the Surface so far. This Weekend I want to try out the Build in Microphone of the Arbhar. I already got a funny Idea for this. If it works I will share it on Modulargrid in the "You" Section.

Thanks again for your nice comments on my Track. It makes me happy :-)

Ahem.. speak for yourself, I think my modular music is excellent hehehe

I did enjoy reading, thank you!!

My take on it is simple, if you can afford it and you have an itch to scratch, then do it - and I wish you good luck!!

If you can't afford it, then don't, and get VCVRack installed on your computer instead - seriously that whole world of awesomeness is not exactly the same, but it is damn close and getting better all the time e.g. MI Ripples emulated recently - WOW!!

I highly recommend a Mutable Instruments Kinks - if for nothing else other than the Sample & Hold section - but you may be surprised with the other sections too!

I would also go through all the Erica Synth Pico modules and read all the descriptions - they are short and to the point. Might give you some ideas.

im in the process of building a eurorack system in a tiptop audio mantis case for my Dark Ambient project.

what i have so far
Synthesis technology E352(is on the way)
Malekko Quad Vca
XAOC Tallin VCA
Tiptop Audio Forbidden Planet
Doepfer A-124 Wasp filter
Ladik m-171 pannable mixer
Make noise maths(will get this next month)
considering either a Z-dsp or Erbe Verb

but dont know much about utilities,what are essential in a setup?preferrably in a small hp size?

I was big into photography once.
I did a LOT of research into what to buy.
I learned that that my needs would not be met with buying 7000 dollars of
camera bodies and lenses. What if I spent six months or two years and did
NO photography? I ended up with a good Prosumer camera that I still love
but can put down with no guilt.

If your that person. Modular is not for you.

If you decide that your modular is a Spiritual Ham Radio and are going to use
it on a daily basis? Buy in hard and deep. If not, get a Neutron maybe?

Yeah 9u.
If you want more.
Your dedicated and will get boats for it.

I think my problem with Maths is that its not something "normal" in a synthesizer.
Not at least as expected if you walked into say Guitar Center and wanted to buy one.
Maths is...far more useful than expected?

I'd have to go for a cheap large Midi module.

Just planning ahead. ^.~

I can't give you a good number, but at least 2. Like most things in Modular more is better.
However two will get you good. If you can do more, go for it. If you can do 3 that will help.
If you can get 3 then move on to the stuff like filters.

I can't give you exact numbers but I think Modular is still in a sorta 70s Hobbyist phase,
there is no real Apple or Microsoft.

Yet.

@.@

Does anyone have any info about when these might be available.
I've been around long enough to know Behringer announces shit and
it takes a long time to actually be on sale, and throw in this Covid stuff...
Just curious if anyone knows.

I'm tempted by the 103 too, as its cheaper and a bit more available here at the moment, but then i think it would be daft to not get the CV control version.

Hi Sislte,

Ha, ha, I love this phrase: "Slavic viking schlager" :-) Well being honest with you, I got a "serious" allergy for "schlagers"-music so I was actually quite scared just those fractions of a second before I pressed the play button of your track...

But I should have known! There was nothing to be afraid off :-) I continue like your creativity in your tracks and as Kel already mentioned, some nice (unexpected) changes.

I hope to hear more of the creativity that you are able to put in your (future) sound tracks! :-)

Good luck and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Wishbonebrewery,

All right! STO, ADDAC 104 VC T-networks (let me know what you think of it once you have used it for a while, I consider the 103) and Disting's Stereo Tape Delay, wow! This sounds very promising as some superb ingredients for your next track :-)

Thanks for that interesting filter hint about CV swinging between BP and LP, nice idea, got to try that once I find time.

Cheers, Garfield.

Hi Quantum_Eraser,

You are welcome and thank you very much for your kind E-mail with the so detailed answer on your patch and how you made this music. Very interesting to read. No worries, I am not going to copy your music style or this track, I was just wondering how you did it. While typing this message, I listen again at your track, still beautiful :-)

I was actually asking about your recorder, so you did that with the 4ms WAV recorder, wow, didn't expect that :-) What's the technical spec of that one? Ah, 24 bits/96 kHz, okay not too bad, no wonder it sounds good (from a recording point of view). Good to hear that you didn't do any external processing, because I had that in mind as well: I am looking for a physical recorder and then hopefully not having the need for using a computer. Not sure if I am going to succeed, I still might end up with a computer based solution :-(

What is amazing is your nice (relatively) simple approach here: taking some Russian radio chatter (nice one by the way) from youtube and the way you used snippets of Mono is an interesting idea too :-) Yeah, I call that beautiful music engineering ;-)

The way you describe the Arbhar, it sounds like I need to check out that module and see if that's something I would like to use as well, I am going to investigate that module, thanks for the hint and highlighting that here in your track.

Okay, if you don't mind I continue listening at your track, the next click on your track will be the 12th time I am going to listen at it :-)

I hope you will share more of your music and if you ever come with the brilliant idea of coming up with an album you must let us know ;-) Oh yes, and include that above track to that album, please?! Meanwhile enjoy modular, good luck with music creation and greetings from Germany, Garfield.