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Thanks for the kind words. The conflicting thing about being the boss is knowing when to fire myself. One of these days, I'll have a few beers, get brave, and tell me what I really think about myself. :-)

Can't be certain what the 2 hp module next to the midi is but this is the rack as best I can tell from the recently posted tech talk. She also uses a lot of outboard gear: 707, bass station, various pedals, etc.

EDITED Oct 27th 2020, 16:38

Wow!

I am not usually up for these Behringer clones, but this looks incredible! Thanks for the heads up!

I haven't bought anything Korg for a long time, I think maybe it was Gadget on iOS, maybe one of the other software versions. They are pretty good to be fair. I have no interest in hardware from them though.

What do you make of this quote from Tatsuya Takahashi of Korg in Attack Magazine?

Attack Magazine: Would you like to do more Eurorack projects?

TT: If I can contribute to the community, yes. I love the Eurorack ecosystem.
Korg is bigger than any of the major players in the Eurorack community, so we have to be careful about entering it. Not because we are nice. It just doesn’t make any business sense to enter a market only to destroy it, unless you are very short-sighted.
As Jacques Attali puts it, “Altruism is the most rational selfish behaviour”.

Full interview can be found here:
https://www.attackmagazine.com/features/interview/tatsuya-takahashi-i-just-tried-to-design-products-to-be-the-best-i-can-imagine-them/

Well, if the goal is to replicate an ARP 2500, yeah, much of the synth WOULD be mults! I should note that Uli has issued a couple more 2500 modules, also...but the Mixsequencer is still not among them.
-- Lugia

the Mixsequencer is comeing! it is one of the more interesting modules that are comeing in the 2500 series ! https://i.imgur.com/wIOjg6L.jpg Even AMsynths shows the Mixsequencer here in this photo

EDITED Oct 27th 2020, 07:35

dixie II fm1 modulation provided by I-o47 and fm2 modulated by saw output of dixie mixed with disting wavefolder attenuated by 3xMIA. Envelopes by Maths, drums by BIA. Sequenced by Mimetic, LXd makes an appearance as well.

EDITED Oct 27th 2020, 07:01

Not much free time tonight but managed a few minutes with the Moog stack. A little modulation help from eurorack.

Came up with fun industrial soundscapes today after work

Kermit is considered a super modulator and can be a quad LFO and many things but in the IME manual it is technically described as a complex wave table oscillator! Really love wave tables.

Right...take the release of the Wavestate. OK, it's cool and all...but at the same Winter NAMM they were touting that, they ALSO had an algorithmic FM polysynth that, from what I saw, fixed the obtuse user interface issues that have long plagued FM synths. Did they put that out? No...they put out the Wavestate, which is a retread of their older Wavestations, of which there's buttloads on the used (and NOS new) market.

So instead of doing something that would be welcome, and also something that synthesists would fall all over themselves to get, they opted for rehashing old turf. That's not just annoying, it's also fiscally irresponsible. But it's just another bag of trash on what seems like it might be a bit of a dumpster fire over in Hamamatsu as far as Korg's concerned, I suppose.

Nope. Not the same instrument at all. Although I'm in line for the initial shipment to Sweetwater at this point, having both a 2600 and 2500 side by side at one point was really revealing. The 2600 works like pretty much any other patchable from this period (such as the EML 101) and was designed to take on the Minimoog. Very straightforward architecture...3 VCOs, LP VCF, etc.

The 2500, though...that thing is the "OG 0-Coast". It has filters...AND LPGs in the form of the Filtamp. Then there's that Mixsequencer...sheer brilliance, and key to a lot of the 2500's mojo. And on and on with the divergent architecture, which was presumably to position it as the "Moog alternative", but which also made it pretty unique...there's not really been a lot of stuff since it came out that replicates what a 2500 can pull off. Plus, the matrix switch setup, though buggy and prone to crosstalk if you didn't keep the contacts in the sliders clean, allowed routings that were simply not capable on anything at the time; it would be a few years later, when Serge Tcherepnin cooked up his system, that you had that same "route it to everything" sort of capability.

There's definitely reasons why those 2500 main and wing cabs go for prices that rival the GDP of some third-world countries on the used market!

Hi Gabor,

Now this is something completely else! What a variation on sounds, deep, high, unexpected & mind blowing. This is beautifully composed, very original!

I loved this at its full length and going to listen yet again, thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Musiqueconcretelover and Lugia,

Why not waiting for the Behringer 2600 to be released somewhere next year (March)? Wouldn't that be easier and nicer? ;-)

Kind regards, Garfield Modular.

I agree with you @Lugia, Korg has really dropped the ball as of lately. Don't get me wrong, I still like my SQ-1 sequencer as it is a cheap and quick modular portable sequencer but a lot of their moves lately have been in the wrong direction. Same with Elektron and Moog. One more reason why I made the move to modular as there are way more choices and the smaller modular companies are more responsive to feedback and customer support.

Interesting. This is a problem I've also been at work on, but in my case I'm trying to add onto just a Subharmonicon and a DFAM:

In this case, I DID want the quantizer, because it allows me (along with the clocking utilities) to alter curves coming off of either the Maths or Quadrax into scalar voltages. But with this, the two Moog skiffs with the Eurorack modules aren't intended to be capable of creating sound in of themselves...they're "addenda" for the Moogs. Very nice of Moog to cook up that four-tier skiff frame...

Anyway, the two Euro-populated skiffs are pretty mission-specific...upper is mainly for clock manipulation of the DFAM and Subby sequencers, the lower adds extra mod sources + a pair of VCAs for those.

Actually, I find that the early investigations of AI-generated (Open AI Jukebox, specifically) pop by a few vaporwave producers is pretty interesting. For one thing, it eliminates the copyright law worries. But more importantly, it provides a sort of template in which there's certain known factors that appear in the result while, at the same time, it also features loads of uncanny valley-type results that are more difficult to predict. As such, it still acts very much like a "proper musical instrument" since it has its own variants on leaky pads, sticky valves, or a gnat down your throat due to the nature of the process.

As for the "is it artistic" point...well, consider this: an AI algorithm is just as capable of being a "composition" as is a score by Mahler, et al. The architecture is very different...but I was always taught that creating a scored work is very much analogous to writing program code. The "computers" might be different, but the underlying cybernetic process is essentially the same.

Well, if the goal is to replicate an ARP 2500, yeah, much of the synth WOULD be mults! I should note that Uli has issued a couple more 2500 modules, also...but the Mixsequencer is still not among them.

Yup the Arp 2600 and Korg MS20 are staples in synth history.
-- sacguy71

Which is one reason why I really went off the hinge when the truth about the KARP 2600's not-really-availability emerged. It, the MS-20, the Minimoog...ALL of these have what you'd call "performance practices" at this point, playing techniques specific to those individual synths, which means you'd be inclined to treat them as specific instruments and not merely "a synthesizer". I thought it was one of the most short-sighted decisions, and I still think how that was handled was a total botch-job. That's why, at this point in time, I'm NOT buying anything else by Korg. They're behaving weirdly...going from the zenith of the Odyssey, the MS-20 Mini, and the Volcas to this fiasco, the chronic issues that the Prologue had, reissuing the MS-20 in several Uli-esque colors for over twice the price of the still-available (and basically identical) Mini, and the retconned "improved" Minilogue XD, etc. That's not a good developmental arc.

Ahoy!

I too like XAOC, Harvestman - esp, the original panels - that Double Andore is stunning - also sounds incredible too!

I'd suggest Monome for a totally minimalist look, Vermona and Feedback modules (their 1-bit delay is lovely) for a retro bakelite knobs aesthetic, but recently the ones I have been enjoying most are Instruo - something very pleasing about those all day!

EDITED Oct 26th 2020, 17:36

😢 so bjutiful

Thank you both GarfieldModular and jingo for your comments about my Track! I really appreciate your Feedback.

@jingo When one day a huge Asteroid falls to the Earth then this will be the Soundtrack :-)

What Modules do you use when you want to make that kind of Ambient?

Hi,

modded version - removed redundancies according to Jim's well though out comment. Although was not able to remove the delay, that's my baaby :)

I feel sadness, empty space(s), loneliness, I imagine a lost soul, maybe a last survivor of an insterstellar war/conflict, drifting through time & space in a "badly wounded" spaceship with no hope to ever come to any destination!

Thats the kind of ambient track I always want to make but I fail every attempt I make...

Let us hear more of this!
Best,
jingo

EDITED Oct 26th 2020, 16:40

Wow outstanding! On par with Colin Benders and approaching Richard Devine territory. I hope to have a large massive setup like yours one day and to master it.
-- sacguy71

Very kind of you, thank you!

EDITED Oct 26th 2020, 15:09

Hey guys, thanks for your feedback! :)

probably don't need the quantizer - all the 3 methods you have of generating pitch are already quantized

do you need 3 ways of playing?

the midi module - lots of people on here saying it's a pain to get working - look for something else with better user reviews - Mutant Brain perhaps if you can find one

swap the xoh for the alm version - 2hp!!!

do you really need an auto tuner - it will only work for 2 modules - probably better to get an actual tuner (pedal or app) and learn to use that!

get stackcables or headphone splitters instead of the mult

the amplifier seems redundant - veils has plenty of gain (over 20db)

the delay is massive in this size case - maybe look at a fx aid xl? more options, much smaller!!

with the extra space freed up I would look at getting rid of the pico modules - and replacing with at least a decent sized filter

its also just inspired of her set up, that could in theory create her droneing sounds. I am aware of we will never get the full arp2500 exprience without the matrix switch... i also think if i will get this set up i need a lot of mults :)

Hi All,

any and all comments welcome :)

Under normal circumstances I play a few medium sized techno/electronic gigs per year, but have no real ambitions about this. The music comes first.

I currently use my Moog family (M32, DFAM & Subharmonicon), a Maschine Mk3, a couple small control keyboards and an 8-track external mixer. All clocked and controlled through my DAW, which i also sometimes use for extra spice. I want to minimize the use of the DAW in the future though, I don't want to be seen as another launchpad tapper. Live playing should always have an element of risk.

The main goal of the rig is to add mid-high range percussive elements and modulation to the Moogs.

I'm a total noob to modular, as you can well see from the rig :), so are there unnecessary elements in it? Am i missing something totally vital?

Thank you for all feedback in advance!

Really interested in replies to the questions posed. I have found working with and releasing Av3ry's music on Audiobulb Records a thought provoking exercise - is it an artist, is it artistic, does it have value and meaning if there is not a human being making decisions of compositional form, speed, narrative and emotions?

It is fascinating and disconcerting:

You can read how reviewers are reacting here: http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB101/AB101.htm

More reviews to come it.

Listeners are struggling to get it I sense.... but some are really connecting - so many tracks too - I guess it's a big investment in time and focus. Only time will tell how this will unfold.

Wow outstanding! On par with Colin Benders and approaching Richard Devine territory. I hope to have a large massive setup like yours one day and to master it.

Hi Quantum_Eraser,

Wo-hooo-hooo-wooow! This is yet another very enjoyable and beautiful piece of music! I didn't mind I had to wait a while before you came up with this next track, it was definitely worthwhile waiting for it :-)

Remark for film producers: For God's sake forget about those established sound track artists, give Quantum_Eraser a decent contract for your next movie!

Very well done, very enjoyable, bowing here with respect! Thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Thanks Garfield,

That sound around 3:00 was the Noise Engineering Cursus Iteritas! Wackiest module ever next to Kermit as it can be acid bass to clarinet to bell like flute tones. Not as well known but it is a cool wave shaper complex oscillator module. Most folks go with Loquelic Iteritas but this is the milder version. I'd love to add a Manis Iteritas.

Hi Mowse,

Lovely jam that is! You have to provide me the telephone number of your boss, I have to talk to him (or her) and explain that you practically don't need to work any more (but of course still get paid), so you can focus more on music, we need you here :-D

Thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Nice skill, Garfield,

I am not quite that handy in building cables. Anyways, using A4 with modular is way easier than Octatrack as you just need to configure the CV A-D settings on the CV menu from A4 and off you go. Octatrack is more of a pain as need MIDI to CV like cv.ocd and do lots of tweaking. I love using drums with A4/OT since I don't need to spend 10-20k on a large modular bass/drum setup.

Still, I like the experimental percussion modules like WMD Fracture/Chimera and Intellijel Plonk and will add those as well as Hexinverter Mutant Machine in the future to complement my Noise Engineering BIA module. Drums are just way too much fun and along with bass the heart of all dance and electronic music.

Hi Sacguy71,

Yes lovely the Octatrack together with your modular, looks good :-) Thanks a lot for sharing this.

Ha, ha, what kind of sound was that around 3:00? Sounded quite funny and good!

Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Sacguy71,

I made myself a few of those 6.35 mm to 3.5 mm patch cables, cheaper ;-) Today I finally had time to play with my A4 again but it was so long ago that I had to get used to it again first. So another time I need to look into combining it with my modular system.

Kind regards, Garfield.

Yup the Arp 2600 and Korg MS20 are staples in synth history.

And why the hell Instruō?! :D

More like six, actually...

A big part of the problem is that it's not branded, so these wind up in the "Other/Unknown" column...and when that happens, users tend to avoid checking for duplicates because "Other/Unknown" is simply HUGE. However, a couple of things do help here...one is the "duplicate alert" that pops up when creating a listing, and which users posting modules need to pay attention to so that this sort of thing can be avoided. The other thing is that posters need to use that word search function in the module searches. It works...otherwise I wouldn't have known about the other three dupes here.

EDITED Oct 25th 2020, 21:43

You should probably worry more about whether this build is playable first. Technically, there's NO VCAs in here (save for the Optomix's gates, which are only sort of that, and which WILL NOT WORK PROPERLY on CV or mod signals). And all of those 2hp modules jammed together aren't going to be fun to work with. Very serious "Sexy Module Syndrome" at play in here. Worry about the power loading LATER; there's far more problems with the whole thing in general!

Exciting @mowse, looking forward to hearing more.

Pinnacles has been a fav of mine for a long time @farkas but I only realized Froese was in Tangerine Dream when @lugia posted those vids of them awhile back. Definitely good stuff, I'll check out Eno and Cluster too.

Thank you very much!

Thats a lovely piece :)

Finally made a new Track Today :-)

As always I tend to completely loose myself into this lush Soundscapes and when
I record I completely forget time. But I kept it under 10 Minutes :-)

And As always. Use Headphones and dive in...

When I just let play the Morphagene along with the Nebulae it sounded nice. But
the I decided to put the Morphagene into the Panharmonium, let all the 32 Oscillators do
their work and oh boy.....what a wall of Sound the Panharmonium pours on you when
added the ZDS Reverb. At around 3:50 the Panharmonium starts it's Madness.

Patch Notes:
NebulaeV2 is running a pitched and slowed down Loop. This goes into QPAS (Bandpass) and into the Desmodus Versio. Morphagene is running a portion of the same Loop in different Pitch. This loop goes into the Panharmonium processed by ZDSP Reverb. Ochd is doing some Modulation on the QPAS.

EDITED Oct 25th 2020, 16:06

Love it.

Work has kept me from diving deep into DFAM and Subharmonicon. A cold, damp weekend was just what I needed for some playtime. Tons of modulation to QPAS while Subharmonicon drones a 4-step sequence. A fun and uncomplicated patch to explore.

EDITED Oct 25th 2020, 14:56

Thank you, both. Next week, I move stereo EQ and compression into the rack so that it will be faster and easier to maintain sound separation and dynamics. Really looking forward to that.

Why was this submitted? Three versions of this already exist on MG.