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Great seller @tFunk, fast shipping and most importantly honest guy. Will buy from again.

Thank you!

• 2 Voices, 1 West Coast (Serge-y) and 1 East Coast (ARP-y)
• voices will be triggered via Korg SQ-1 or from DAW via Midi-CV conversion of SQ-1
• Disting, because it has lots of functions ...
• Simple Drum module for 6 drum channels!
• Trigger Man to drive the drums

I use one and have a love/hate relationship with it. I adore its mellow sound, I obviously like the name and the build. It gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling knowing its all analog. I even like the pitch shift effect on time adjustments, it's fun, often surprising, can be made very musical.

However, there's a few things that bother me:
- feedback catches quite a lot of hum
- there's a high-pitched BBD overload sound on higher time settings; you can EQ it out but it's annoying
- BBD aggressively low-passes the signal even in 4k short mode, you can't do razor sharp delays with it
- as others said, it's tricky to get usable feedback amount out of it, even though the knob is huge. It's very easy to overload it (so the sound drowns in feedback) and just a hair length less on the knob gives no discernible feedback at all
- bypass boosts the dry signal level so it's useless for most use cases
- spillover is not the same as disconnecting the input cable, it just lets a single feedback pass through. This means it's also pretty useless, get's silent within a second tops

There's also missing features. Any sort of tempo synchronization would be fantastic, being able to control the timbre of the delay (or just having a way to patch something into the feedback loop) would be great. Stereo output would be awesome. Any of these missing features would trump my gripes with it.

As it stands though, unless you're really into analog signal paths in hardware, get something else. I'm not parting with mine since I learned to use it effectively. But I don't love it.

★★★✩✩

No prob. :)

Not every module is available in True Grid. It's mainly a few Pittsburgh and Doepfer modules.
-- exper

Oh thank you so much you're a legend

Not every module is available in True Grid. It's mainly a few Pittsburgh and Doepfer modules.

When I try to open up my rack in truegrid i only see patches available from my VCA???
Where am i going wrong?

EDITED Aug 11th 2016, 15:10

If you do not have any experiance regarding modular syths and how to build them by yourself, my recomendation would be to start virtual modular.
Stop. Dont complain. Read ahead!
If you go to Clavia Nords homepage, you will find a virtual modular synth demoing their (meanwhile dis-continued)hardware-Synthesizer named "G2".
This demo is for FREE and can be found here:
http://www.nordkeyboards.com/downloads/legacy/nord-modular-g2

If you download it and read the manual, you get an idea of how it is going to be to work with a real modular.
If you start working with it, and you start to wonder why you dont hear anything, its way better to learn this and other Basics in the virtual environment.
This way you avoide the usual traps when starting with modular synthesis from scratch, which is buying modules you realise later on you did not need at all.
Within this virtual modular synth you get hundreds of modules (for free) which you can pull and wire up.
You get voices, oscillators, amps, modulators, input-, output modules, effects and complete synth-voices of course too.

If you start this way and collect your own knowledge from hands on experiance (no matter that its gathered virtually), you will avoide disapointments.
I started this way years ago, and it served me right.

PS: if you start with a Mother32, you have to realise that it may have CV-ins and CV-outs on this synth, but you have to do something with this CVs. Just having the ins and outs does not help you if you do not use this signals or alter/vary this signals somewhere and send them back or somewhere else where they are used for something.
A single Mother32 is alone just a normal synth with one voice.
In regards of modular synthesis, buying a Mother32, its like buying a trailer. You can move in and live inside. But if you want more and move around, you will have to buy an "additional" car thats able to pull it somewhere else.
If you allways want to stay at the same place a Mother32 is fine. If you want to move somewhere else you need to dive deeper into the topic to find out what car you are going to need in the future.
"I want to buy a car" - "Which one, Sir?" - "A blue one" ... is not going to be help you find the correct one.
Try to discover what you want - by learning.
Then, - go shopping!

EDITED Aug 8th 2016, 10:29

Not sure where you live, but if there's any chance of visiting a store that sells modular, I couldn't recommend that approach enough, even if it means planning a vacation around it. I was turned on to modular serendipitously by a visit to Rough Trade East in London which had a SchneidersLaden demo room in the back. There's absolutely nothing to compare to hands-on experience with a little in-person expertise to help guide you.

If you do the second hand experience - be very careful. Incredibly, even for expensive modules people often just produce non-descriptive lists of gear without photo or condition. You'll want something in good cosmetic condition - if you love the module, you'll be looking at it for a long time, if you re-sell it, you don't want any difficulties making the next buyer unhappy with it's appearance. You may also want to shoot video of your rig, so it's not enough that the module is simply functional.

Take time to do your research, watch a lot of videos and don't buy too much all at once. Check also the service reputations of the makers - hopefully you won't need it, but it's sure frustrating when after buying a buggy module for $500 you discover that the maker isn't returning anyone's email.

It would also be nice to be able to select multiple modules at once to move as a group. Like dragging a selection over a group or something like that.

That is a tricky one which might come some day but not soon.

-- modulargrid

Been using modulargrid since it's creation, indispensable as mentioned by many.

This one feature request would be amazing. I always have functional blocks of modules that need to be moved together. Swap row doesn't really help in this instance as half of the row needs to moved again anyway.

Also previously mentioned, is it possible in the command centre to rearrange the list. It doesn't seems to arrange alphabetically by rack name, but in a column to row convention rather than a row to column convention. It's hard to arrange it in an order that works.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers
Daryl

Added Livewire Chaos Computer to the rig! https://www.instagram.com/p/BIqeuAWDbuW/

EDITED Aug 4th 2016, 16:37

Been reading this thread, to many negative experiences in my view.. For that price at least. Seems like Intellijel is a bit more quality for the price.

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=152341&highlight=

Sounds perfect to me! I think you'll have a lot of fun with that setup - the Atlantis is super popular and for good reason I think. I thought the Lifeforms looked good - has it had negative reviews?

Thank you for your reply Whunder :-) Been reading a lot of stuff online the last few days and currently I'm most drawn towards the Intellijel Atlantis as it has two VCO's and I've been reading a lot of negative things about the Lifeforms from Pittsburgh. I like the moog sound but as you said, the sequencer seems like a pain. I was thinking of getting a 2nd hand Atlantis with a 2nd hand Mutable Instruments Clouds and a Korg SQ1 as a starter set up. I work with a lot of different materials as a job so building my own case won't be a problem, will be fun actually! I think those modules will give me some fun play time for sure. Like you're saying, the moog feels more like a very cool stand alone unit, but I think the atlantis can stay within a bigger rack as a nice 101 resembling sound. Interested in your thoughts :-)

T

My first module was the Mother 32 and I now have a few others built around it in a small Doepfer (LC6) case. Personally, I did it this way because the M32 packs a lot of features into a single module at a really good price. If you worked out what it would cost to get the same functionality from separate modules, it would be a lot more. The one thing I don't use very often on the M32 is the sequencer, it's too slow to work with. If you like the Moog sound (it does sound Very good), I say start with the M32 and build up around it.

I've actually started to think I might take it out of the case and put it back in its original enclosure, it's really fun to have right in front of you to play and it works very well standalone. Something very 'pure' about it :)

Worth noting that the tank that comes with this is huge! Doesn't fit in my LC6 case, does produce a nice long decay though... this is a quality spring reverb. Befaco make great modules.

Very good transaction with @manolah - great comms and quick delivery with tracking. Cheers!

Hi, can this be used for static CV generation without inputs (in the same way that the U-110 does) too?

Hi everybody,

I'm looking on some advice about where to start. Would getting something like a Mother 32, a Lifeforms or Intellijel Atlantis set up be a nice segue in to a modular set up, or would you recommend saving up some extra money and start off with some separate modules? Something like a DPO + Optamix + Maths or a cheaper Doepfer set up and get that 99,- external korg sequencer for instance... My current way of working has been with ableton but I find it boring and uninspiring and want to be more hands on and playful. Wise words welcome! Thank you :-)

Best, R

Hi this is my first post in this wonderful world

This is what i have ordered so far after reading forums and watching videos for quite some time.
I plan on adding a sequencer in the future but for now am i on the right track?
Any advice/comments/suggestions very welcome and appreciated

Thank you for looking

Hhm, that's quite the list! Meaning you probably will want to be prepared for everything ;-)

As for syncing things up the pro way, look at the ACME4 ( http://www.schneidersladen.de/en/snd-acme4.html ).
You will want a MIDI interface in your modular, probably going both ways. If you plan on sending CV from the computer to the modular you will need a special interface like the ES-1 (http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/es1.html) .Question 3. Are you looking into processing outboard audio inside the modular? That would need interfaces for each chan to bring the outside line level up to modular voltage and another interface module for bringing it back down for the mixer.

Start by looking at the interfaces of your most important boxes and get modules to connect them to your modular. To have all the connecting options you will face about a complete row of interfacing. See http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/hardware.html for inspiration.

At a minimum, you need a module that accepts and syncs to audible clicks/triggers and outputs a trigger or gate to sync your modules. Stick your drum machine's rim shot in it and your modules will follow the drum tempo. Probably both Maths and Disting can do that, read the manuals.

PS: Only saw your updated rack after posting.
Do you already have the Make Noise CV bus module?
AFAIK it is sold as part of their shared system only.

EDITED Aug 2nd 2016, 08:34

1. I am buying a 22 channel soundcraft signature mixer that has multitrack recording so I can run all of my gear into ableton and record into individual tracks at once (pretty awesome analog mixer). For $800 I think its a steal. I currently have a small 8 channel behringer mixer that I can swap gear out for whatever I want to use at the moment. What mixer do you use? What mixer do you suggest? Also, what kind of features are good for modular set ups.

2. Honestly, I would like to all of my gear to be one big happy family with my modular system(s). I currently have 4 volcas and a dreadbox hades, however, by the end of october I will have a roland tr8, dreadbox erebus, make noise 0coast, my 4 volcas, the dreadbox hades, korg minilogue, and one moog mother 32 (I'll start with one voice and buy more if it is worth it). so yeah, I want them all to work together with the modular system. The dreadbox units, mother 32, and the make noise all have patch points as you already probably know. Do you think that is possible?ysWhat do you think I need to interface with the gear? Any recommendations other than that? My plan is to have everything running at once on the 22 channel mixer. I know it seems like A LOT of equipment with the modular but I am taking this serious and want to go live. Obviously I wont take all the gear live but my show will always be different. So I think I understand what you are asking... I want for example one of the synths to run into the maths, right? What do you think?

3. I am not sure I undertand this question? can you please kind of elaborate.. sorry, I am an airhead:) its kind of late here too.

4. So this answers five as well... I currently have one beatstep pro - connected to the beatstep pro I have a midi solutions quadra through that has one midi in and four midi out. At the moment I have the volca beat, volca keys, and volca bass being sequenced by the beatstep pro. The volca sample is also connected to the midi through box which allows it to receive clock from the beat step pro. So even though I could sync the volcas through ttheir own inputs, I do all the clocking from this midi through box. I going to buy either one or two more midi through boxes or a bigger midi interface for all the gear to connect to my beatstep. Also, I am going to buy a second beatstep pro to control more gear as I absolutely love the machine. It is such a big powerhouse of sequencing - so motivating and insprining to use. I am sure you know this, but the beat step pro has usb connection that comes with a splitter that I use for the computer connection and to power the unit, it has clock in and out, midi in and out, 8 drum gate outputs, and two sequencer CV outs that have their own velocity, gate, and pitch outputs (I LOVE THIS MACHINE:). so the beatstep can control the eurorack system. What do you think of that setup? Any recommendations or ideas?

I know this was a long winded response to it all but I am super excited to get this going. I started djing electronic music 22 years ago, started producing in the box roughly 10 years ago and now I am taking the plunge and going to straight instruments trying to stay away from the computer. If I do use the computer I will temporarily use it to trigger samples with a novation launchpad. Also will use computer to record in ableton and post production. Needless to say this is going to be quite the journey for me as I want to release music and play it live as well.

I appreciate your help and feedback on thiis as you have taken the time to answer my questions. Thank you in advance for a response to my answers.

Last thing - I will list all of my gear so you have a better idea.. this is all of the gear that I am planning to have by the end of october

1. Volca Sample, Keys, Bass, and Beats - MAYBE the FM
2. Dreadbox Hades
3. Dreadbox Erebus
4. Soundcraft Signature 22 Multitrack Analog Mixer
5. Roland TR 8
6. Two Arturia Beatstep Pros
   7, Make Noise 0Coast, no coast whatever
7. Korg Minilogue
8. Moog Mother 32
9. Some kind of TB303 box (Possibly the Roland TB 3 becuase its inexpensive) - If i decide tto spend some money I will get the abstrakt instruments avalon bassline for like $1k USD. I played with it and it is hands down the closest to the real thing in my opinion.
10. Still need to buy speakers as I am borrowing my friends cheap $100 for the pair m audio speakers. Thinking about picking up a pair of yamaha hs5. I am in an apartment with thin walls so I want nice small speakers that I can use as reference with mixing and mastering. Most of my recording, jamming, etc will be done with headphones... I am going to get a couple pairs of headphones (Sennheiser HD series, Beyer Dynamics dt880 or 990, and possibly one other pair.
11. 2015 13 inch macbook pro 8gb ram
12. 3 tb g-tech thunder Hard drive
13. Headphone amp (need suggestions for this one) I will need one with multiple outs as I will be doing a solo act as well as a duo with one of my buddies. I know it will kill my ears but I want to be able to jam out loud with headphones. Maybe get a subpac to feel the bass:)
14. I may get an elektron octatrack for sampling as I love using samples. I hear they are the best. A bit pricey and difficult to master, but great piece of gear nonetheless.

I think that's pretty much it... I know its a ton of spending on my part but i have allocated the money for this and am taking it seriously. It's been a good year with work so the funds are available fortunately. I don't plan to become famous doing this, but I want to share my 20+ years of electronic music experience with the world and just see what happens.

This little modular thing will just be the beginning after I put together all of the other gear. I am going to buy this one row then eventually start expanding it over the next few years, eventually building a big rack to integrate with my system. I am also planning to start a meet up group where I live for those that want to join and meet to jam out on their modulars.

Wow, I just wrote an essay. Hopefully you or someone else takes the time to read and give advice and feedback.

Thanks!!:)

Good call on the VCA's! Thanks captainbleep
Nice three tier morphlex, I'm loving the Templi demos online, I wish I had more room already. I like the Pico modules, I ended up choosing the Pico filter 1 to save space but still get a good strong filter, I think it'll do the trick. I like the Pico drums too. I think the Variegate is a killer unit, can't wait to try it. Here is the updated rack. I think it's going to be powerful!

thanks to @box78, excellent communication and very helpful seller. Higly Recommended!

Whoa. Is that skiff custom from Magpie?

I have the 3 tier with 2X M32 and Clouds currently. Thinking of adding some Pico (3hp) modules to spice things up. Here is the rack:

I like that you chose the Varigate 4. It's a nice module. The Ultrafold must be fun. Decisions decisions! :)

This is my first rig and I'm thinking this could be fun. Currently i have 2X M32 and Clouds. It's already fun but I want to add percussion and another voice. Since hp is limited I went with the Pico series. I've seen the 2hp stuff but wasn't impressed in the options and features. Would anyone have suggestions on this rig? Thank you in advance! :)

PS. I currently run either VCA out or Clouds to my Mackie 1202 so no output module is really needed, unless you have an argument to persuade me to think otherwise. Also, Pico A Mix (pre-sale) and Pico EG are on the way.

EDITED Jul 30th 2016, 02:04

disting in audio playback mode 1-a

bf22 channel 1 right on the edge of self-oscillation

uses birds .wavs

Looks slick. Great sonic compliment to the Mother. Don't forget some VCAs tho!

Hi Ronbo!

I've used my modular for drum processing a ton. While you don't NEED an envelope follower, they're really, really useful. The other thing that's useful in that situation is buffered mults. The ones in your rack are unbuffered, which could cause signal level drops. Depending on how you're getting signal from outside your modular into your modular, you might need an input module too (the Doepfer A-119 is both an envelope follower and an external input). The other comment I have is that you have two oscs and three LPFs. Unless you're just in love with the LPF sound, I'd encourage you to consider at least one multimode filter (like Intellijel's Polaris). Often times they have one out per mode, so you get more audio to do fun things with.

Have fun!

Options for last 8HP:
Cold Mac
Jones O'Tool+
Rosie

Would also recommend a Mutable Peaks or maybe a Disting or 2...

Hi all --

I'm planning my first Eurorack - it's going to take a while before I can afford it - and I'd love to get some feedback. I got hooked on synths in high school (the ARP 2600 was new then) and I've waited a long time to give in to the craving.

Some comments/questions:
* I'm assuming I'll get a Doepfer case despite the cost just so I don't have to worry about power issues. Any alternatives come to mind? I could build a case but I'm concerned about getting the power supply wrong.
* I'm not a performer and I don't need a MIDI interface. My primary interest is experimenting with sound design. One thing I would like to try is using external sounds as both audio and cv. However, I'm not sure how best to do that. Envelope follower?
* The STE 16 LFO is the only digital module in the system. It looks interesting for modulation but I'm not sure it makes sense as a clock source. I've included a basic Doepfer LFO just to be sure ... and I wonder if the STE 16 isn't overkill.
* Output will be recorded onto a Mac - probably just Garage Band although one of my kids is saving up for Logic Pro.

Thanks in advance for any insight.

I had great deals with the following sellers: @enn_n , @bark , A.S. and St john . (I was not able to correctly tag these last two…) Thanks all!

I am building my first rack around sampling beat engine (photogene and pressure points, brains....) and my moog m32
The mother sequencer wont really allow me to play a free bassline with for example different length in the tones wich is important for my music (melodic not technoid)

So is there sth that allows me a more free approach to play my sequences like drums from samples with the pressure points and bass from the moog and lets me set loop points, transpose etc without cutting my melodies in same length and same speed steps?

There must be!?

Had a great transaction with @Hinterlands313 - would certainly buy from again!

Thank you! :)

Yes since i am not making techno music i think i dont need more than the moog for now and maybe add some modulation in long term.
I mix synth music with electric piano, guitar and drums (often vinyl breaks chopped up) to make the use of the rack more specific.

I would like to use the erica mixer as preamp to amplify external sources aswell, like epiano. Possible?

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E.g. https://www.m..ulargrid.net/e/racks/view/319038 will show

About your choices: the Moog covers a lot. Some additional modulation sources and VCA would be a benefit.

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_319038.jpg

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Would love to hear opinions on this.
The moog is here, firat pressure points + braids and switch ordered aswell as case.

Did i forget anything? Photogene would serve as master clock?

How functional will the sequencer be?

These modules will (if at all!) come later: trigger man, bastl grandpa, 2nd pressure points, ring mod.

Is the tubiness of the erica mixer worth it? I really like a tube based mixer if it isnt just show

Yeah, the first batch were printed wrong so they were a bit cheaper :)

Need little help. If somebody who have this filter can mesure the exact depth of the module with the cable plugged, it will be great. I have one small skiff only 46 mm deep.
Thanks!

A few things to think about:
1. Got a mixer that can host 2 ch of modular?
2 .What piece/s of gear need to interface with the modular?
3. Will any of the outboard stuff's audio go in (level adjust line --> modular --> line) ?
4. What needs to sync and by which means (midi, tap tempo clock, ...) Which box should be the master clock ?
5. Are there any Eurorack controllers to help your live performance?

Looks like there are two "In A"s on the front panel, shouldnt the right one be "In B"?

Nice rack

July 2416 update to my modular:

• HexInverter 909 Bass Drum and 909 Snare Drum have been removed (partly for panel space; partly for power consumption)
• 3 x CGS / René Schmitz VCAs have been removed (un-removable 'thump' in at least 1 of them; output levels are too low from all 3. Replacing with VCAs from someone else / non-DIY)
• the 2 x Serge USG's up above ARE DIY CGS / Serge USGs
• the 2 x SSM2044 LPFs up above ARE, DIY
• the 3 x basic VCO's above are Music From Outer Space VCOs (R.I.P. Ray. :( Thanks for everything! )
• the Mutable Instruments Peaks and Branches modules will be here from my supplier tomorrow or Tuesday. I don't know exactly where in the cabinet, they'll be placed yet
• the triple bi-directional router is a CGS / Serge DIY one and is non-functioning. There is a 2nd one that IS working, in another cabinet, below the one above.)
• there is an 8 step CGS / Serge Programmer / Sequencer with the Moog 960 Sequencer Play / Stop / Skip switch for each step, for EACH direction, in the cabinet below
• there is a Music From Outer Space Echo Rockit in the cabinet below

I still haven't moved any other 4U / Serge panel modules into the New Europeans modular, from The Deathlehem Machine modular. I don't know if I will be, as I may be moving AWAY from DIY modules, completely.

Looks pretty cool to me, I'm looking into a 32 as well!

Yeah, you are right as far as the funds are concerned but compared to the other systems I have put together on here this rack is more inexpensive. The other racks are $4k-$6k,

As far as what I expect - I really just want a rack that I can integrate into my live setup. My live setup has a Roland TR8, moog mother 32, make noise 0coast, korg minilogue, and the entire volca series. I want the rack to have many sound sculpting capabilities allowing me to add flavor to my live set that I wouldn't have otherwise been able to with my current gear. I play techno, electronic, and house music.

Hopefully that is a good explanation, if not, please let me know and I will try to elaborate.

Thank you for your input!

@HDvice and @manolah both good sellers. Would buy from them again!

Hi and welcome yebanat!
I would say if you can start out with a rack like that your funds cannot be all that limited ;-))
Looking good to me. Knowing what you expect it to do would help though.